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  • #46
    This is an idea worth considering, although 4-1 after 13-3, and likely to end up 13-3 or better this is not the kind of thing to lead to getting fired.

    Jerry Gray or anybody else, I want to make damn sure what type of D any new guy would use. Just look at McCarthy's guy in Dallas - absolutely fucking up a pretty good team. We better not get somebody who de-emphasizes blitzing and pass rush. It seems like Pettine himself, though, has lessened that this season, either that or the Smiths have just deteriorated since last season. Somebody needs to analyze why we aren't getting a pass rush. I remember there would be an occasional inside blitz from Martinez or Joey Thomas in the past. There hasn't been any of that this year. Could it be we miss Martinez more than some detractors think? Maybe Barnes just hasn't learned that aspect yet. Whatever the case, it needs to be fixed.

    This no turnovers thing is getting old too. One theory - that I generally subscribe to - is that getting turnovers is a matter of either LUCK or blunders by the other team. I don't know, is there any sure fire way to make turnovers happen? If there is, somebody here post it - cuz I'm sure Pettine and LaFleur and Gutekunst read every word posted here, even Brandon's.
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    • #47
      Watching Preston Smith play this year, he is either playing hurt, has some family issues that are distracting him or is being used wrong by Pettine.

      I mean, he doesn't even try to tackle anyone. It's like watching someone going thru the motions.

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      • #48
        Preston and billy turnstile are prime candidates for cutting next year. Bakhtiari is a prime candidate for the franchise tag
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          This is an idea worth considering, although 4-1 after 13-3, and likely to end up 13-3 or better this is not the kind of thing to lead to getting fired.

          Jerry Gray or anybody else, I want to make damn sure what type of D any new guy would use. Just look at McCarthy's guy in Dallas - absolutely fucking up a pretty good team. We better not get somebody who de-emphasizes blitzing and pass rush. It seems like Pettine himself, though, has lessened that this season, either that or the Smiths have just deteriorated since last season. Somebody needs to analyze why we aren't getting a pass rush. I remember there would be an occasional inside blitz from Martinez or Joey Thomas in the past. There hasn't been any of that this year. Could it be we miss Martinez more than some detractors think? Maybe Barnes just hasn't learned that aspect yet. Whatever the case, it needs to be fixed.

          This no turnovers thing is getting old too. One theory - that I generally subscribe to - is that getting turnovers is a matter of either LUCK or blunders by the other team. I don't know, is there any sure fire way to make turnovers happen? If there is, somebody here post it - cuz I'm sure Pettine and LaFleur and Gutekunst read every word posted here, even Brandon's.
          The thing is Pass Rush and turnovers kind of go hand in hand. Get pass rush and balls get forced and tipped Etc Etc which creates more opportunities for turnovers. It all starts with pass rush!!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
            Watching Preston Smith play this year, he is either playing hurt, has some family issues that are distracting him or is being used wrong by Pettine.

            I mean, he doesn't even try to tackle anyone. It's like watching someone going thru the motions.
            I’ve been posting about it. He is pulling a Nick Perry!!!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              The thing is Pass Rush and turnovers kind of go hand in hand. Get pass rush and balls get forced and tipped Etc Etc which creates more opportunities for turnovers. It all starts with pass rush!!
              Duh. That's why I absolutely don't want a D Coordinator who de-emphasizes all out pass rush/blitz packages. It seems like Pettine has toned it down in that area this season - which is why I would consider joining the "fire Pettine" crowd.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                Duh. That's why I absolutely don't want a D Coordinator who de-emphasizes all out pass rush/blitz packages. It seems like Pettine has toned it down in that area this season - which is why I would consider joining the "fire Pettine" crowd.
                We talked about this after the Niners game. He should already be gone!! He had a year with McCarthy and they gave him a year with LaFleur. They have given the guy high priced free agents and draft picks galore. Picks i’m sure he was salivating over!!!

                He hasn’t put it together and now the regression is taking place. This is what happens when you lack accountability in an organization. This isn’t the minor leagues!! We’re getting close to where what it used to be and with all this $ and picks that is just unacceptable!!!!!!

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                • #53
                  You're assuming he has been bad at his job. 13-3 and 4-1 say he hasn't been that bad. The only problem is he is trending to the worse side. And those super FAs are not looking nearly as super this season - for whatever reason.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    You're assuming he has been bad at his job. 13-3 and 4-1 say he hasn't been that bad. The only problem is he is trending to the worse side. And those super FAs are not looking nearly as super this season - for whatever reason.
                    In big games he has been horrible. Both the Niners game last year with the second one being completely unacceptable. The defense also fell apart in the second half against the Seahawks in a game that we were in total control of and made it way closer then it needed to be. The offense basically had to seal the deal by getting first downs to close it out.

                    My issue is they still couldn’t stop the run last year. They had one big game late in the season against Minnesota(Delvin Cook was hurt) which got everyone on the bandwagon just to get completely run over in the playoffs. Pettine can’t or is unwilling to adjust in game correctly to off-set issues.

                    If you remember they were talking “Championship Defense” Blah Blah Blah. They sold out everything for it and it isn’t anything close to a Fucken “Championship Defense.” In fact it’s becoming a giant mess again if anything. I’m just tired of it.

                    I knew before the season Pettine wasn’t the man and here we are talking about firing him. So we have basically wasted a season with this guy.

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                    • #55
                      We keep wasting seasons and Rodgers is gonna be 40 soon!!!

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                      • #56
                        What D Coordinator/what defensive scheme around the league has been significantly better than the Packers this season, given the quality of players they have had to work with? I can't really think of any. The league is geared to emphasizing offense - rules, calls, etc. A lot of teams have given up a lot of points and yards. Every attempt to replace a D Coordinator with somebody new has resulted in something worse than before or at least no improvement.

                        Be careful what you wish for. Pettine ain't that bad.
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                        • #57
                          The D does not do a single thing well at this point. Turnovers? Nope. QB pressure? Nope? Red zone stops? No, they are giving up TD's at one of the highest rates in the league.
                          Go PACK

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            Duh. That's why I absolutely don't want a D Coordinator who de-emphasizes all out pass rush/blitz packages. It seems like Pettine has toned it down in that area this season - which is why I would consider joining the "fire Pettine" crowd.
                            Packers are blitzing slightly more this year than last year. They're just not as effective. Pressures are down by about a third.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                              The D does not do a single thing well at this point. Turnovers? Nope. QB pressure? Nope? Red zone stops? No, they are giving up TD's at one of the highest rates in the league.
                              I think it all gets down to pressure. Turnovers and red zone stops are lacking because opposing QB's aren't being forced and hurried into bad throws. It's tough to be a Packers DB this year.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                                Devin White is a friggin animal. Most physically dominant ILB in the league right now. Holy shit!
                                Yep. He was a monster in college too. All it takes is the 5th overall pick to get a player like that.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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