Is Gutekunst betting the farm? Putting all his eggs in this year's basket?

[Patler]

With all due respect, Patler, but you lost all credibility regarding the cap when you argued -and was mathematically debunked- that it was impossible for Todd to retain both Wahle and Rivera, as well as Shaper.

Leave salary cap analysis to burger-flipping losers who have passed all 4 sections of the CPA (cap proficiency assessment) exams.

The cap can always be cooked. The networks will always bail out teams, at least until, Zeus-willing, capitalism collapses. There’s no such thing as a cap hell anymore.

The cap ain’t preventing Jerry Jones from building a team full of highly paid superstars. Instead, Jones refrains from doing so cos he’s a greed-fucked fishmonger, just like all the other greed-fucked fishmongers in the greed-fucked league.

The more expensive the player, the less profit, err, fish the fishmonger takes home.

Your repetitious bullshit is absolutely nauseating. You and your kind are more responsible for the decline of forums like this than any other factor.
Everytime I think I miss this place, you remind me of why I really do not.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Your repetitious bullshit is absolutely nauseating. You and your kind are more responsible for the decline of forums like this than any other factor.
Everytime I think I miss this place, you remind me of why I really do not.

Initially, the cap, along with revenues sharing and the reverse order draft, was developed to allow humble teams like our beloved Pack to remain competitive in the arena.

With soaring revenues and titanic network contracts, the cap has evolved into somewhat a constraint that benefits the owners as a whole. The cap gives Jerry Jones an excuse to not overspend. If Jones starts overspending, Snyder would be forced to follow suit. Then Kraft. Then Banks. And so forth.

The owners despises getting their profits milked. And that’s the truth.

[gbgary]

rodgers contract, and age, dictated this was the year for the biggest move(s) alongs with matthews and cobb contracts being over. there'll be less room going forward. the next two drafts better be great or it will have all been for not.

[gbgary]

Initially, the cap, along with revenues sharing and the reverse order draft, was developed to allow humble teams like our beloved Pack to remain competitive in the arena.

With soaring revenues and titanic network contracts, the cap has evolved into somewhat a constraint that benefits the owners as a whole. The cap gives Jerry Jones an excuse to not overspend. If Jones starts overspending, Snyder would be forced to follow suit. Then Kraft. Then Banks. And so forth.

The owners despises getting their profits milked. And that’s the truth.

jones has always overspent. he's kept his guys too long too. everyone should take a page out the hoodie book of winning and trade off some of their high-priced assets for good draft position like the pats have been doing year after year.

[RashanGary]

For 1, TT gets credit for part of these next two years. It was his responsibility to the long term that made this possible.

Secondly, Gute has to be right or the packers have no choice but to rebuild through the draft because we’re almost last in the league in available cap space.

Third, he did seem to pick safe players. All four are solid NFL players. They fit what we do and they fit what we need. They also are all durable players heading into the prime of their careers. Based on this, they are all decent bets to be solid


Assuming Gute drafts well, and these guys mostly pan out, we have a couple shots. These are young FAs. Definitely should be good players for a couple years.

It’s not a bad time for doing this. TT gets credit for making this possible and Gute gets credit for taking the risk. Now it needs to work or Gute won’t have a GM job.

[RashanGary]

Redundant

[RashanGary]

The other thing I like Gute doing is trading picks to up a round in next years draft. If he uses FA a little bit, that extra draft ammo will start to add up and make it possible.

He has a chance. He does not look over his head. Different than TT, but not in over his head. TT is a Sb winning GM. His own QB. His own team. Gute has a lot to prove but he could do it too. But even if he does, he shares some of the credit with TT.

[Joemailman]

rodgers contract, and age, dictated this was the year for the biggest move(s) alongs with matthews and cobb contracts being over. there'll be less room going forward. the next two drafts better be great or it will have all been for not.

I don't think it had much to do with Rodgers. It had more to do with Gutey realizing that the terrible 2014 and 2015 drafts had simply left too many holes in this roster. No longer being constrained by the Matthews and Cobb contracts gave him the room to maneuver.

[RashanGary]

I don't think it had much to do with Rodgers. It had more to do with Gutey realizing that the terrible 2014 and 2015 drafts had simply left too many holes in this roster. No longer being constrained by the Matthews and Cobb contracts gave him the room to maneuver.

This is pretty much it. Its only good if he’s right on the players. But it’s a good move to win football games. And because we don’t have anyone to resign from those drafts, that’s why we have the money.

[red]

I don't think it had much to do with Rodgers. It had more to do with Gutey realizing that the terrible 2014 and 2015 drafts had simply left too many holes in this roster. No longer being constrained by the Matthews and Cobb contracts gave him the room to maneuver.

yeah, he HAD to bring in OLBs because TT neglected it so badly the last few years

it seems like every year for as long as i can remember, we've been needing to address that position in the offseason

so new guy just did whats been obvious for too long

same with safety and o-line. you have a need, address it. seems simple enough

[RashanGary]

yeah, he HAD to bring in OLBs because TT neglected it so badly the last few years

you have a need, address it. seems simple enough

If it was that simple, everyone would be winning Super Bowls, red. Each team only gets so much money. Have to balance it right. It’s more complicated than just do whatever you want.

[RashanGary]

But TT did seem a little over zealous about adding random talent and not focusing on need. There is too much of a good thing, and TT did seem to cross a couple of those thresholds.

[Bretsky]

Tt gets unlimited credit for Aaron Rodgers. I am not giving ted too much credit for the next two years. I think his lack of recent success left gooter in a desperate situation th where he had to take some serious swings to hav a shot next year

[RashanGary]

Tt gets unlimited credit for Aaron Rodgers. I am not giving ted too much credit for the next two years. I think his lack of recent success left gooter in a desperate situation th where he had to take some serious swings to hav a shot next year

Tt left gooter with money to fix it though. TT was average after those first 5 years. Good at keeping himself financially able to make things happen and bad at acquiring talent at the end.

But Gute is in good shape right now. The money tt saved made up for those blah drafts.

And I’m actually optimistic that Gute made good decisions to right the ship. We have a shot.

[call_me_ishmael]

I pretty much align with everyone else. I don’t see an alternative that isn’t for sure wasting at least 2019-2020 for Rodgers. They needed talent badly. My gut feeling is only one of the two will see the end of the contract and they still pick a pass rusher of some sort at #12. I don’t mind the signings at all, but the guard did have me raise an eye brow at the cost for a no name back up player. I hope the theme of the team is build the trenches this year because that is a bad contract it appears and paying Bulaga again seems dicey