First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[mraynrand]

Maybe the NFL is moving to such a quick release offense that simple upfield pressure is what's needed. Often no time for that finishing move. The delayed get-off belies that though.

I suspect, if nothing else, Gary will weep often.

[Fritz]

As will we.

[pbmax]

Maybe the NFL is moving to such a quick release offense that simple upfield pressure is what's needed. Often no time for that finishing move. The delayed get-off belies that though.

I suspect, if nothing else, Gary will weep often.

He's going to be great at the end of game interviews after a close game. Just not sure how dirty his uniform will be.

[pbmax]

The after pick justifications roll on!

Tom Oates @TomOatesWSJ
No one in the NFL believes Gary would have been there at 30. Probably not 20.

Packer Report @PackerReport
100 percent he wasn't getting to 20. Not even close. I can say that with certainty.

[mraynrand]

He's going to be great at the end of game interviews after a close game. Just not sure how dirty his uniform will be.

[mraynrand]

As will we.

Packerrats be like:

[Fritz]

The after pick justifications roll on!

Tom Oates @TomOatesWSJ
No one in the NFL believes Gary would have been there at 30. Probably not 20.

Packer Report @PackerReport
100 percent he wasn't getting to 20. Not even close. I can say that with certainty.

Great, fine. I wish they would have chosen someone else, and let Gary get picked at #16 or whatever. Let him be someone else's bust.

[mraynrand]

Great, fine. I wish they would have chosen someone else, and let Gary get picked at #16 or whatever. Let him be someone else's bust.

It's like you dared me to post this

[Fritz]

That dude on the right . . . man, his left eye sits about a half inch above his right. Freaky.

[bobblehead]

I kinda helped thread jack Sternberger's thread so I will paste this here:

I finally found one reason to have optimism for Gary. He is about 1/2 inch shorter than Jedeveon Clowney. He was 11 lbs heavier. His numbers across the board were almost identical.

Gary is a Freak and by all accounts does whatever is asked of him. We will see if our new OLB coach (who developed Ford and Houston in KC) is worth his salt.

[RashanGary]

I kinda helped thread jack Sternberger's thread so I will paste this here:

I finally found one reason to have optimism for Gary. He is about 1/2 inch shorter than Jedeveon Clowney. He was 11 lbs heavier. His numbers across the board were almost identical.

Gary is a Freak and by all accounts does whatever is asked of him. We will see if our new OLB coach (who developed Ford and Houston in KC) is worth his salt.

And when he went to Michigan he was a 280lb 18 year old who could run 4.6

You don’t get any indication that he’s on performance enhancers. He’s just bigger and faster and stronger than everyone else naturally. Plus he already plays the run like a beast. And Frank Clark played the same position at Michigan and the stats didn’t show up for Clark until the NFL. The coaches at Michigan loved him and he always did his job.

So he’s got a few things going for him. I hated the pick. But I hated the Matthews pick for the same reason.

Gute has to take big guys when he gets the chance. Sometimes you get a Harrell, other times you get a Kenny Clark. But you have to take those chances or you’ll never get the reward.

[Fritz]

And when he went to Michigan he was a 280lb 18 year old who could run 4.6

You don’t get any indication that he’s on performance enhancers. He’s just bigger and faster and stronger than everyone else naturally. Plus he already plays the run like a beast. And Frank Clark played the same position at Michigan and the stats didn’t show up for Clark until the NFL. The coaches at Michigan loved him and he always did his job.

So he’s got a few things going for him. I hated the pick. But I hated the Matthews pick for the same reason.

Gute has to take big guys when he gets the chance. Sometimes you get a Harrell, other times you get a Kenny Clark. But you have to take those chances or you’ll never get the reward.

He's not like Frank Clark. You could see Clark flash his skills at Michigan; it's just that the guy wasn't a great human being and he simply didn't want to bother to pretend to be a college student. Montez Sweat is more like Frank Clark than Rashan Gary is.

He also does not play the run like a beast. He's that guy who shows up right at the end of the play, running up just in time to see the opponent being tackled. Does he set a good edge? Maybe. But he also can be fooled with misdirection.

And that "he always did his job"? If you say that about a fourth round pick, that's cool. But you don't pick a guy at #12 because he did his job. You pick a guy there who showed mad skills. Gary has mad measureables but not mad skills.

[bobblehead]

I kinda helped thread jack Sternberger's thread so I will paste this here:

I finally found one reason to have optimism for Gary. He is about 1/2 inch shorter than Jedeveon Clowney. He was 11 lbs heavier. His numbers across the board were almost identical.

Gary is a Freak and by all accounts does whatever is asked of him. We will see if our new OLB coach (who developed Ford and Houston in KC) is worth his salt.

Stumbled across it:

Gary Clowney
HT 6-4 3/8 6-5 1/4
WT 277 266
ARM 34 1/8 34 1/2
40 4.58 4.53
VJ 38″ 37.5″
BJ 120″ 124″
3C 7.26 7.27
SS 4.29 4.43
BP 26 21

[esoxx]

You know the apocalypse is upon us when Wist and I are in rock-solid agreement.

You're also in rock-solid agreement with Tank.

Congratulations

[RashanGary]

And that "he always did his job"? If you say that about a fourth round pick, that's cool. But you don't pick a guy at #12 because he did his job. You pick a guy there who showed mad skills. Gary has mad measureables but not mad skills.

I get it. I didn’t like the pick either. I would have preferred Jeffrey Simmons. At least he’s proven great, just needs to recover. Chris Lindstrom is a sure bet. He went to Falcons two picks later. Gary is a rare physical specimen and had some other good qualities so I do understand the gamble.