First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[Joemailman]

There sure is a disconnect between what a lot of people see in Gary and what the Packers scouts and coaches see in him. Mike Smith thinks he was the best OLB prospect in the draft. Smith, like Pettine, focuses more on getting consistent pressure than on numbers of sacks. They obviously think Gary will help a lot in terms of pressure. I do think Pettine will put Gary in better position to make plays than they did at Michigan. They won't be lining him up as a 6-tech the way Michigan did much of the time.

[red]

It's probably like "Attack of the 'Red' Clones"

i don' need clones, i spray my seed all over he place

[Bretsky]

Position coach presser on Packers.com .... coach Mike Smith has him rated as the best EDGE in the draft. Couldn’t believe they got him. Has never seen a player so big and fast. Consistently affected the QB.

Same thing I saw. Gary is a bully. He’s gonna fuck people up.

Was shocked to hear people say he didn’t like football. Said his stats didn’t tell the story. Same shit anyone who watches the tape says.

GOOD; THEN HE SHOULD HAVE 15 SACKS

[Bretsky]

There sure is a disconnect between what a lot of people see in Gary and what the Packers scouts and coaches see in him. Mike Smith thinks he was the best OLB prospect in the draft. Smith, like Pettine, focuses more on getting consistent pressure than on numbers of sacks. They obviously think Gary will help a lot in terms of pressure. I do think Pettine will put Gary in better position to make plays than they did at Michigan. They won't be lining him up as a 6-tech the way Michigan did much of the time.

I call BS

Sacks are the measurable

Let's stop making excuses and measure Gary on his production in the NFL

Petting likes sacks. If he's the top Edge in the draft he gets measured based on production and that means many many sacks

[wist43]

I call BS

Sacks are the measurable

Let's stop making excuses and measure Gary on his production in the NFL

Petting likes sacks. If he's the top Edge in the draft he gets measured based on production and that means many many sacks

I think Gary will put up big numbers if - IF - he develops an effective swim move, and a secondary inside counter.

Even without those polished techniques I can see him putting up good numbers, but it's much tougher to win against NFL Tackles without good technique. He needs to be coached up.

Have you watched his tape??

[Joemailman]

I call BS

Sacks are the measurable

Let's stop making excuses and measure Gary on his production in the NFL

Petting likes sacks. If he's the top Edge in the draft he gets measured based on production and that means many many sacks

Team sacks and pressure should be the measurable. The Packers were near the top of the NFL (8th overall) in sacks last year. Pressure not so much. I actually think Gary will get his sacks, because Pettine and Mike Smith will do a better job of utilizing his talents than Michigan did. But I could see the Packers being one of the top pass rushing teams in the NFL with nobody getting double-digit sacks. I'd be fine with that.

[mraynrand]

But I could see the Packers being one of the top pass rushing teams in the NFL with nobody getting double-digit sacks. I'd be fine with that.

If the defense is working as designed, this is probably what you'll see. I have a lot of confidence in Poutine - when he has had reasonable talent, he's pretty good.

[Bretsky]

Team sacks and pressure should be the measurable. The Packers were near the top of the NFL (8th overall) in sacks last year. Pressure not so much. I actually think Gary will get his sacks, because Pettine and Mike Smith will do a better job of utilizing his talents than Michigan did. But I could see the Packers being one of the top pass rushing teams in the NFL with nobody getting double-digit sacks. I'd be fine with that.

So Green Bay was 8th overall in sacks last year ? We got the "best" lol Edge Rusher in the draft. We also upgraded our safeties and outside LB's. That should move up a lot and Gary as the "best" edge rusher in the draft should have at least double digit sacks. And hopefully pressures drastically improve to.

BUT pressures should have drastically improved with the additions of Smith and Smith, right ??

So the only real measurable is sacks.

Unless we're using Michigan logic which would basically allow us to justify the draft pick forever.

[Bretsky]

I think Gary will put up big numbers if - IF - he develops an effective swim move, and a secondary inside counter.

Even without those polished techniques I can see him putting up good numbers, but it's much tougher to win against NFL Tackles without good technique. He needs to be coached up.

Have you watched his tape??

Plenty of it (and not just his good play highlights..; he's fine. Not a top 12 pick IMO but he's fine and he might be a good fit since he'll pair up with both of our high priced free agents. I just find humor on how nobody wanted him before the draft and now that GB picks him everybody immediately watches the highlight tape that was there before and then flips and finds excuses to love him.

Dude needs double digit sacks if he's the best edge rusher. Dude needs to bump Fackrell off the playing field. Dude needs to get to some Pro Bowls. I hope he does

[pbmax]

Team sacks and pressure should be the measurable. The Packers were near the top of the NFL (8th overall) in sacks last year. Pressure not so much. I actually think Gary will get his sacks, because Pettine and Mike Smith will do a better job of utilizing his talents than Michigan did. But I could see the Packers being one of the top pass rushing teams in the NFL with nobody getting double-digit sacks. I'd be fine with that.

I think this is probably very close to the truth. We spend a lot of time looking at sack numbers, but you also need to consider pressure AND should also consider a +/- component. Do players (Winovich for example) get better when you are on the field?

Should also consider any pressure that gets the QB to move a bonus. Possible that pressure stats already account for this.

[George Cumby]

4-6 dudes with 8 sacks each would be a good start. To a good defense or really bizarre porno is anyone's guess.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I for one will simply wait until he hits the field and see how he plays before going off the deep end one way or the other.

I know, I know, this is an internet forum and everyone's an expert based on NFL.com or other ratings of draft prospects, mock drafts and YouTube video highlights. But I'm not gonna do that.

This has been your rational break. Sponsored by the number 52 and the letter R.

[mraynrand]

I for one will simply wait until he hits the field and see how he plays before going off the deep end one way or the other.

I know, I know, this is an internet forum and everyone's an expert based on NFL.com or other ratings of draft prospects, mock drafts and YouTube video highlights. But I'm not gonna do that.

This has been your rational break. Sponsored by the number 52 and the letter R.

This is OK only if you promise to go off the deep end one way or the other at some point.

[Zool]

So Green Bay was 8th overall in sacks last year ? We got the "best" lol Edge Rusher in the draft. We also upgraded our safeties and outside LB's. That should move up a lot and Gary as the "best" edge rusher in the draft should have at least double digit sacks. And hopefully pressures drastically improve to.

BUT pressures should have drastically improved with the additions of Smith and Smith, right ??

So the only real measurable is sacks.

Unless we're using Michigan logic which would basically allow us to justify the draft pick forever.

Oakland probably got the best edge rusher in the draft.

[Zool]

I for one will simply wait until he hits the field and see how he plays before going off the deep end one way or the other.

I know, I know, this is an internet forum and everyone's an expert based on NFL.com or other ratings of draft prospects, mock drafts and YouTube video highlights. But I'm not gonna do that.

This has been your rational break. Sponsored by the number 52 and the letter R.

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