First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[RashanGary]

Look, I want Gary to be a big, massive success but to put him in the same sentence as Watt, let alone compare the back ground.... I think the cart was on the road before the horse was even conceived on this statement JH.

It’s a comparison because they were big 10 run stuffers who weren’t supposed to be able to rush the passer based on lack of college production. Not saying Gary is as good as the HOFer but saying he’s a stud who’s college numbers didn’t tell the story.

[call_me_ishmael]

You clearly did not watch JJ Watt in college because he was an absolute beast his junior year and single handedly beat Ohio State living in the backfield. Okay, sure, David Gilreath running that opening kick back helped too.

Seriously - JJ Watt's junior year may not have had a ton of sacks, but let's not forget this is college ball and the big 10 in 2010ish at that. He was an absolute beast and the most dominant pass rusher I've ever seen in person. I remember against North Western to end that season when he had like 4 TFL and the whole stadium was chanting his name. It was incredible. We went to that good ass italian place with the mural outside after - f'n amazing meal too after a tremendous game.

That said, it's hard not to get excited about Gary and what we've seen so far. His numbers don't lie, and those numbers paired with his alleged work ethic will almost certainly lead to good things. It's way too early to compare him to an all-time great and first ballot HOFer, possibly best DL to ever play the game in Watt, but it's an encouraging start.

[pbmax]

Watt had 11.5 sacks in two years at Wisconsin and 36.5 TFL.

[run pMc]

If Gary turns out to be good, wow. It's very early, but the camp reports do provide some hope.

[Radagast]

Success for Gary and the Packers is a win/win situation. Let us all hope that it continues and he gets better.

The hard cold truth is that teams will study any/all video on him and will attack any weakness in his game. If he can overcome the strategies that will be used against him, then he may well be successful.

Don't allow yourselves to get over excited though, even JJ Watt and Khalil Mack are not 100% successful 100% of the time.

[gbgary]

so much is riding on him being a stud and being cheap for a few years. it goes for all the rookies and 2nd year players. hopefully those extensions and rodgers leaving coincides. too much overlap and there's going to be ridiculous trouble.

[mraynrand]

If he can overcome the strategies that will be used against him, then he may well be successful.

True for everyone since the beginning of time.

[pbmax]

True for everyone since the beginning of time.

Don't get me started on the old single-cell versus multicellular battles They continue unabated to this very day.

[pbmax]

so much is riding on him being a stud and being cheap for a few years. it goes for all the rookies and 2nd year players. hopefully those extensions and rodgers leaving coincides. too much overlap and there's going to be ridiculous trouble.

True, but its always true in general. You need good, cheap, young talent. Helps even more if its a QB, EDGE pass rusher or CB.

But you need to find savings somewhere to afford elite level talent. Much easier to be the Lions and spend elite money on being .500.

[texaspackerbacker]

so much is riding on him being a stud and being cheap for a few years. it goes for all the rookies and 2nd year players. hopefully those extensions and rodgers leaving coincides. too much overlap and there's going to be ridiculous trouble.

I disagree with this. Drafting Gary was more a sign of playing with house money after signing the Smiths. The great upgrade of the pass rush was already in place. If Gary turns out to be great, it will help down the road for sure, and it will be gravy right now too, but essential to success? That was addressed in free agency. Safety, of course, was also addressed. The O Line still seems lacking to me, but hopefully they know what they're doing by doing very little there. Everything else is pretty solid on this team - despite the negative stupidity of some.

Rodgers leaving? You've sunk to a new level of bullshit with that comment ...... or are you talking about 6 or 8 or 10 years from now?

[mraynrand]

Don't get me started on the old single-cell versus multicellular battles They continue unabated to this very day.

Prokaryotes have been around since the dawn of life! They will be victorious in the end! If Eukaryotes hadn't taken prokaryotes as slaves (mitochondria and chloroplasts), they wouldn't even be alive! Prokaryotes rule, eukaryotes drool!

[pbmax]

Prokaryotes have been around since the dawn of life! They will be victorious in the end! If Eukaryotes hadn't taken prokaryotes as slaves (mitochondria and chloroplasts), they wouldn't even be alive! Prokaryotes rule, eukaryotes drool!

There are a LOT of mitochondria T-shirts but none that protest the mitochondria's confused rights standing.

[mraynrand]

There are a LOT of mitochondria T-shirts but none that protest the mitochondria's confused rights standing.

Mitochondria are the Tom Joads of microorganisms. Chloroplasts are the Boxers - they will work harder.

[run pMc]

Rodgers leaving? You've sunk to a new level of bullshit with that comment ...... or are you talking about 6 or 8 or 10 years from now?

You know Aaron Rodgers turns 36 in December, right? Favre retired at 41; if Rodgers plays that long he'll need luck and health (and a good OL).

[run pMc]

I'm not ready to eat crow and jump on the bandwagon yet re: Gary.
I didn't like the pick at the time but if I'm wrong about him I'll be happy to admit it.