Packer Rats Winners and Losers of GB VS CHI

[the_idle_threat]

Am I the only one who thinks we should give Fergie a shot at starting next week?

Yeah, pretty much.

[OS PA]

Winners

Brett Favre - With all of the things going wrong for him today, he seemed to maintain a certain swagger and keep his head out of trouble. Before his interceptions he was making good decisions and seemed to be "obeying" the play calling.

Ahman Green - 110 yards against the #1 Rushing defense in the league with no offensive line, while playing from behind. Enough said.

Donald Driver - Driver comes up big in every game.

Aaron Kampman - He was the heart of the defense today, if we could only teach him how to run a 4.5 =(

Charles Woodson (The Punt Returner) - Woodson did his best impression of Devin Hester after we were down and out, racking up 28 yard punt return and a 14.7 yard average.


Losers

The Coaching Staff - C'mon guys, get your heads out of your asses. Be creative with your play calling, switch it up. It seemed that no matter what was happening on the field McCarthy tried to stick with the same gameplan, lose. We need to pick up another reciever and show some confusing sets. Not the ultimate pass blocking set of 3 tight and a fullback, which we saw alot of tonight.

Brady Poppinga - Brady should not play Linebacker in this league. Put him at his natural position of Defensive End and hope that he makes up for his year and a half lost playing LB'er. He can't read an offense. Limit his job to hitting the quarterback and he'll be a fine player.

Bob Sanders and his in-the-box safeties - Part of the reason we were so successful in pass coverage last year was our safeties helping our CB's double up. In this years scheme we seem to be putting our safeties out of position too much. The long touchdown to Berrian was given up because Marquand Manuel was playing too far up, and it seemed Nick Collins job was to watch the running back to the basics.

Chad Clifton - Sure Chad is a rock, but this isn't a good thing. He was letting people by at an alarming rate today. The only pass protection we got out of him was when we put two tight ends and fullback next to him.


I was disappointed with our heralded Zone-Blocking scheme today, our boys don't do finesse well. I say throw it out during our bye-week and teach them how to hit like men.[/b]

[Fritz]

For all the talk about TT making this team too young, I think that some of the blame for this loss has to go to some of the vets. I'm thinking primarily of Clifton and Tauscher, both of whom had bad games. Especially Clifton, who was responsible for two sacks at times the Packers were in decent down and distance positions.

What is needed, more than anything, is a stud defensive lineman, end or tackle, who can blow up the pocket. Grossman had time to pick his nose back there.

[Iron Mike]

I do remember him beating his man one play though and then getting obviously held and basically tackled by the LT. A flag came out and I figured for sure it was offensive holding, but instead it was a holding call on Woodson.

IMO, there were a lot of "non-calls" in this game....

[Harlan Huckleby]

I just hope McCarthy realizes that Favre is still the guy with the best chance to be a difference maker on offense.

But does a difference maker make a difference on a team this bad? This is a rebuilding year, I don't see how you can progress without giving the QB you are building around (Aaron Rodgers) some playing experience.

It is certainly more entertaining to watch Favre play than to suffer through Aaron Rodger's growing pains. But if the games are painful anyway, might as well be pain with gain.

[Zool]

Just think, this is far and away the best defense we will see until week 17.

[MJZiggy]

I just hope McCarthy realizes that Favre is still the guy with the best chance to be a difference maker on offense.

But does a difference maker make a difference on a team this bad? This is a rebuilding year, I don't see how you can progress without giving the QB you are building around (Aaron Rodgers) some playing experience.

It is certainly more entertaining to watch Favre play than to suffer through Aaron Rodger's growing pains. But if the games are painful anyway, might was well be pain with gain.

I think you have to take what you can get right now. Favre gives them their best shot at winning, that's true. He also brings the experience and can spot problems in the way guys are lining up instantly. He is also on fire in the huddle and teaching them how to battle until the last play. Perhaps Aaron can do these things as well, but certainly not as well as Favre.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ziggy, maybe they can give Rodgers a quarter of play in a game like yesterday.

[MJZiggy]

I would not have had a problem with that, though what good would it really have done to have him out there getting his ass handed to him as well?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would not have had a problem with that, though what good would it really have done to have him out there getting his ass handed to him as well?

college of hard knocks.

[Noodle]

I would not have had a problem with that, though what good would it really have done to have him out there getting his ass handed to him as well?

college of hard knocks.

And maybe, just maybe, he doesn't get his ass handed to him.

I'm a huge believer in the notion that nothing teaches the speed of the game like playing the game. Give A-Rod a taste everyweek so that his mind begins operating at that speed all the time.

Once Favre started his fuck-it, let's chuck-it phase near the end of the third, ARod should have gotten the call. Nutz said it at the time on the game thread, and he was exactly right.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I agree with the Bananaman here. I thought KGB played the run pretty well. There was one run where he pinched inside and Jones was able to cut it back behind him but other than that he was decent.

I have to admit that I don't watch him much on passing downs so I have no idea if he was getting doubled or chipped. I do remember him beating his man one play though and then getting obviously held and basically tackled by the LT. A flag came out and I figured for sure it was offensive holding, but instead it was a holding call on Woodson.

I'll agree here as well. KGB did a nice job in the game. Overall, I thought the run defense did well considering that last year this defense likely would have given up 160-170 yds rushing in a game like this. But then, if you throw the ball to wide open receivers, why run?

[LaFours]

I know Poopenport is an injury liability but after watching this team self-destruct on 3rd/4th and short I couldn't help but think that it would have been nice to have the "pile-mover" around. But thats just thining out loud.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What's sad about this game was they ran the ball pretty well, stopped the run pretty well, and by the time Favre threw his first incompletion we were down 16-0 in the 3rd quarter. Just crazy stuff. No pass rush. No pass defense. Favre was 6 for 6 for 84 yards into the 3rd quarter.

His first 6 passes:
B.Favre pass deep right to D.Driver to GB 37 for 17 yards (1st quarter)
B.Favre pass deep middle to D.Lee to GB 47 for 25 yards (2nd quarter)
B.Favre pass short middle to A.Green to GB 45 for 13 yards (2nd quarter)
B.Favre pass short right to A.Green to CHI 45 for 5 yards (2nd quarter)
B.Favre pass short left to R.Ferguson to CHI 35 for 10 yards (2nd quarter)
B.Favre pass deep right to D.Driver to GB 45 for 24 yards (3rd quarter)

Some times I wish he'd eat the ball late in game when there is no hope, but that wouldn't be Favre. People will now say he played terrible because he threw 2 picks in the 4th quarter when the team was down 26-0. I hardly think he was to blame because the Packers couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 on the first drive, Wells stepped on his foot on a 3rd and 3 on the second drive, Rayner missed a FG, the defense couldn't stop the Bears and give the ball back to the offense, the offense allowed 3 sacks where the defender was on him in a hurry, and Herron fumbled a KO return. Sure, he can take some blame for the sneak, but he's not exactly going to be great in those situations if Wells can't stand up the NT. He was far from the major problem in this game.

[MJZiggy]

Hey, he made it on that sneak, it was a bad spot.