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If a healthy Kum doesn’t make the team, I will personally join the American Knights and organize a white power protest at Lambeau Field...peacefully, of course.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostMy gut says that EQ and Kumerow are in much more danger of not being on the final roster than people think.
The WR unit as a whole is still weak, but Kum currently is a top 3 receiver on the roster. I would be fine and dandy with Allison, Moore, St. Paul and Davis not being on the final 53.
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why would you want to go and make me root against him?Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostIf a healthy Kum doesn’t make the team, I will personally join the American Knights and organize a white power protest at Lambeau Field...peacefully, of course."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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The third preseason game maybe should tell us a lot. Adams and MVS hardly seeing the field so far isn't all that surprising - they are in and no need to risk their health. St. Brown, though, would still seem to have something to prove - Allison too, so it's kinda strange that they haven't played more. Trevor Davis was supposedly setting the camp on fire as a receiver, and he hasn't played - at all that I have seen. What's with that? Is he so solid that he has nothing to prove? Or is he so much on the way out that they aren't bothering to play him? I'd guess the latter. Moore played little or none in the second game - that can't be a good sign for him staying. And of course, Shepherd and Lazard have both looked damn good, as well as Kumerow.
I like that idea of stashing whoever on IR, but I doubt getting away with that is quite as easy as some think.
My recollection of past years is that fewer WRs made the team than it seemed like should. If not for that factor, I'd say we keep seven: Adams, Valdez-Scantling, St. Brown, Allison, Kumerow, Shepherd, and Lazard - but who knows. We'll find out in a couple of weeks.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Kumerow definitely is a gamer. He earned it. I think only 5 WRs should make the team this year. Davis probably the 5th. Nobody wants a 5’10” WR who runs 4.6 so Shepherd should make practice squad. Lazard hasn’t been consistent enough so he should make it too. Moore is a retard but someone will take him because he’s explosive. But I don’t care. Let him go.
But I see 5 guys kept with the two young developmental guys on the practice squad. I think we have better backup OL than WRs so I’d rather see 9 or 10 of those than 6 WRsFormerly known as JustinHarrell.
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You might turn out to be right. They kept more cloddish O Linemen last year and before and less WRs. I HOPE it ain't that way, though. I see nine WRs maybe worth keeping - the seven I said plus Moore and Davis. You can't cut down to too low a number of O Linemen, but IMO, very very few of those 11 or 12 are anything but stumblebums. Another factor is that back up O Linemen are worthless in kick coverage and receiving, while WRs can do a lot of things there.
I could easily see keeping both 9 O Linemen and 7 WRs. That plus 2 QBs, 4 RBs (including FB), and 3 TEs adds up to 25 - which leaves the 3 specialists and 25 for the D to make 53.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Well-reasoned. Be interesting to see them cut J'mon. Pictures on the telly don't tell me enough about comparative route-running, but really who cares if you're explosive if you can't reel the ball in and maybe don't get the offense (Rodgers won't throw to you)?Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostKumerow definitely is a gamer. He earned it. I think only 5 WRs should make the team this year. Davis probably the 5th. Nobody wants a 5’10” WR who runs 4.6 so Shepherd should make practice squad. Lazard hasn’t been consistent enough so he should make it too. Moore is a retard but someone will take him because he’s explosive. But I don’t care. Let him go.
But I see 5 guys kept with the two young developmental guys on the practice squad. I think we have better backup OL than WRs so I’d rather see 9 or 10 of those than 6 WRs"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I wonder if he's still a "gamer" greeting people at the front door of Wal-Mart?Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostWell, you rooted against Janis...and Billy Schroeder.
Janis was a playmaker whenever he was on the field, be it at WR or ST. Dude should be on an NFL roster.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Per Acme, the snap counts for receivers in Baltimore:
Darrius Shepherd 28, Allen Lazard 22, Jake Kumerow 20, Equanimeous St. Brown 20, J’Mon Moore 18, Geronimo Allison 13, Marquez Valdes-Scantling 13, Teo Redding 11, Malik Taylor 9, Davante Adams 7
I don't remember seeing Moore on the field, yet he got 18 snaps, almost as many as Kumerow.
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Absolutely they will hold back the offense. It blows my mind that anyone could watch the offense last year, see them lose Cobb, and think that standing pat was a good move at WR.
Guys like ESB, Davis, Moore, Kumerow, Shepherd, etc should be fighting for one spot. 3 will probably make the team. Hope I'm wrong but i think outside of Davante the WR core has been overvalued.
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Wait, you think the loss of Cobb is somehow devastating? 6 games, 40 receptions, 400 yards at best? Sorry, but those are Jeff Query level numbers. They'll probably get those numbers throwing to the fullback.Originally posted by yetisnowman View PostAbsolutely they will hold back the offense. It blows my mind that anyone could watch the offense last year, see them lose Cobb, and think that standing pat was a good move at WR.
Guys like ESB, Davis, Moore, Kumerow, Shepherd, etc should be fighting for one spot. 3 will probably make the team. Hope I'm wrong but i think outside of Davante the WR core has been overvalued."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Push that to 16 games and you are at 85 and 1000. I'll take that.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostWait, you think the loss of Cobb is somehow devastating? 6 games, 40 receptions, 400 yards at best? Sorry, but those are Jeff Query level numbers. They'll probably get those numbers throwing to the fullback.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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