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  • #76
    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
    Push that to 16 games and you are at 85 and 1000. I'll take that.
    He started 6, played in 9 I see. I don't see his recent productivity being hard to duplicate, unless his replacement(s) also miss a lot of games.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #77
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Will Wide Receivers Hold Back This Offense?
      i think they probably do some considering there's not an obvious #2 and rodgers' "trust" issues with everyone other than adams and maybe allison (who's had health issues). rodgers getting past that would help but you know how leopards are in regards to their spots.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
        Wait, you think the loss of Cobb is somehow devastating? 6 games, 40 receptions, 400 yards at best? Sorry, but those are Jeff Query level numbers. They'll probably get those numbers throwing to the fullback.
        No way . . . Danny Vitale is hurt.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by gbgary View Post
          i think they probably do some considering there's not an obvious #2 and rodgers' "trust" issues with everyone other than adams and maybe allison (who's had health issues). rodgers getting past that would help but you know how leopards are in regards to their spots.
          I think his trust issues with MVS may be much less than last year. Rodgers has talked about how much MVS' practice habits have improved this year. Some will downplay the importance of practice habits, but given how much emphasis Rodgers puts on practice (more important than preseason games), it's a significant change.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            I think his trust issues with MVS may be much less than last year. Rodgers has talked about how much MVS' practice habits have improved this year. Some will downplay the importance of practice habits, but given how much emphasis Rodgers puts on practice (more important than preseason games), it's a significant change.
            MVS stood out to me at practice. 5 practices, watching mostly WRs. It’s hours of data. It’s like a couple games of football, honestly. So I have a view that I think is more informed right now than most people.

            Since seeing his suddenness in his breaks and explosion and confidence in his assignments, I’ve started to pay attention to him as a person. He’s smart. He has his own values. He doesn’t take shit from anyone and doesn’t let other people’s opinions phase him. He’s a little brash, almost offensive because he’s a leader and has ideas not a follower. But Rodgers respects him.

            He’s so explosive and fast and tall and has everything really except weight. But he can go down easier like Moss did to save his body. But I do believe he’s a truly elite talent. Him and Rodgers are just learning each other. I could see this guy being 1b with Adams for the last 5 years of Rodgers career. And the perfect 1b because he stretches the field more than Adams.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
              Wait, you think the loss of Cobb is somehow devastating? 6 games, 40 receptions, 400 yards at best? Sorry, but those are Jeff Query level numbers. They'll probably get those numbers throwing to the fullback.
              Did i say it was devastating? It's still a loss of a starter and a loss of depth. Our production outside of Adams was thin last year and there was nothing done to upgrade. Just hoping that guys break out. It's a possiblity, but I'm expecting wr depth and consistency to be an issue just like last year.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                Did i say it was devastating? It's still a loss of a starter and a loss of depth. Our production outside of Adams was thin last year and there was nothing done to upgrade. Just hoping that guys break out. It's a possiblity, but I'm expecting wr depth and consistency to be an issue just like last year.
                Yeah, you could be right. I'd dispute the upgrade part though, just because I think they see the guys they drafted/brought in last year as growing into more prominent roles. Maybe we don't think much of them, but maybe they graded them higher, and that's why they didn't go sign/draft more. Time will tell.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  Yeah, you could be right. I'd dispute the upgrade part though, just because I think they see the guys they drafted/brought in last year as growing into more prominent roles. Maybe we don't think much of them, but maybe they graded them higher, and that's why they didn't go sign/draft more. Time will tell.
                  but will rodgers allow it to happen? it's not like those guys didn't get open last year.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                    but will rodgers allow it to happen? it's not like those guys didn't get open last year.
                    I dunno. I suppose he could just throw 600 passes to Adams, but the defense will figure it out pretty quick.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                      but will rodgers allow it to happen? it's not like those guys didn't get open last year.
                      Chemistry with the perfectionist take time. MVS is smart as a whip. AR does seem to respect EQs game. It’s a completely different year. 2nd year with AR helps those guys a lot.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                        Chemistry with the perfectionist take time. MVS is smart as a whip. AR does seem to respect EQs game. It’s a completely different year. 2nd year with AR helps those guys a lot.
                        there's no time for that chemistry/trust bs anymore. the rodgers window (not that there is such a thing anymore) has reached the point where regardless of who it is, open is open. just throw it.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                          there's no time for that chemistry/trust bs anymore. the rodgers window (not that there is such a thing anymore) has reached the point where regardless of who it is, open is open. just throw it.
                          Thing is, Rodgers uses his eyes a lot to manipulate the defense. When he comes back to his guy, that guy better be where he’s expected to be. AR can’t dummy down his game and stare WRs down to see what idiot route they might have run. He has to count on them to be there. I do think it matters. The receivers need to rise to Rodgers level not the other way around. Or we’ll lose even more games with interceptions and sloppy ass college level QB play.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                            If they keep Moore over Kum or EQ, we will know that nothing has really changed in GB. Moore is not even a mediocre player.
                            well...I should have added that I don't need my gut to tell me Moore is all but gone.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                              Did i say it was devastating? It's still a loss of a starter and a loss of depth. Our production outside of Adams was thin last year and there was nothing done to upgrade. Just hoping that guys break out. It's a possiblity, but I'm expecting wr depth and consistency to be an issue just like last year.
                              The upgrade is 2 guys with a year under their belt and 2 guys who missed a lot of time that haven't been injury prone outside of last year. They should be much better this year. Add in an effective run game and we should be ok.

                              RB is the skill position people should worry about. Our only guy with talent is injury prone. Some people bagged on Monty for injuries, but Jones hasn't been any better.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                I dunno. I suppose he could just throw 600 passes to Adams, but the defense will figure it out pretty quick.
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