Utilization of the Packers WRs when Adams comes back....

[RashanGary]

Using the simplistic, caveman football philosophy of, “putting players in position to accentuate their strengths” heres what I see coming

2 WR sets between the 20s will be mostly Adams and MVS. MVS takes the top off and Adams is Adams

2 WR sets in the redzone will be either Adams/Allison or Adams/Lazard. MVS struggles in traffic so will not play much in redzone

3 WR sets between 20s will be mostly Adams/MVS/Allison with Allison in slot. This is the most trusted, experienced grouping

3 WR sets between the 20s will occasionally see Adams/MVS/Lazard with Adams in the slot. This will help get Lazard on the field a little more and in this case, Adams is our best slot guy.



Obviously there are 1 WR sets and 4 WR and 5.... those are uncommon so I’m not gonna attempt to predict every situation exactly. I’m just giving some general ways to accentuate the best skills of our guys in the common 2/3 wr sets and in the common situations.

[RashanGary]

The emergence of Lazard might take snaps away from Graham as well.

So Lazard steals MVS redzone snaps
A few of Allison’s 3 WR snaps, moving Adams inside occasionally
A few of Graham’s snaps

[hoosier]

I'm not sold yet on the emergence of Lazard. He has made a few great plays, yeah, but so did Janis. Hell, even Ruvell Martin had a couple of nice catches. I want to see the guy continue to produce once he has shown up on some radar screens before announcing his arrival. Until then he's just another UFA with some intriguing potential.

[pbmax]

I'm not sold yet on the emergence of Lazard. He has made a few great plays, yeah, but so did Janis. Hell, even Ruvell Martin had a couple of nice catches. I want to see the guy continue to produce once he has shown up on some radar screens before announcing his arrival. Until then he's just another UFA with some intriguing potential.

Would also be nice to see him successfully run something other than a Go pattern down the sideline.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Would also be nice to see him successfully run something other than a Go pattern down the sideline.

Lazard should be capable of running other routes, as he’s not stiff like Sloth and Martin (and Darren Charles). Lazard looks like a poor man’s Mike Evens.

[pbmax]

Lazard should be capable of running other routes, as he’s not stiff like Sloth and Martin (and Darren Charles). Lazard looks like a poor man’s Mike Evens.

Being a former, possible, shut down corner, you know that speed is not a skill that translates to good routes elsewhere.

[call_me_ishmael]

Whenever Kumerow gets a chance, he produces. Keep it rollin' with him.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Being a former, possible, shut down corner, you know that speed is not a skill that translates to good routes elsewhere.

The notion that sub 4.4 WRs can’t run anything but the bomb route is pure stereotype. Pretty sure Megatron and Julio Jones, among others, debunked that notion.

Lazard didn’t run 4.3, but he did run a 4.55. Not bad for a 6’5” 230 guy. I thought he was stiff, as in deer-legged sloth. Dude looks pretty agile to me.

When the Fraud returns, bench Sloth and play the Lizard. Or trade for Julio Jones.

[RashanGary]

When the Fraud returns, bench Sloth and play the Lizard. Or trade for Julio Jones.

Who plays in the slot? Does MVS play? He has more 40+ yard catches than anyone in the NFL according to some twitter post some where this week that I don’t give a fuck to site....

[RashanGary]

You’re making sense tho, APB...... I’m just curious how you see it happening. I laid out what I see as likely based on my idiot cave man philosophy. I’m curious what you want to see.

[mraynrand]

The notion that sub 4.4 WRs can’t run anything but the bomb route is pure stereotype.

You’re getting the logic backwards. The point is that his outside speed or go route success doesn’t mean he’s physically unable to run inside slot patterns. It’s likely he’s just too green to do it. More adjustments and trust issues there. Also, increased INT risk when you bungle patterns.

[Joemailman]

I'm not sold yet on the emergence of Lazard. He has made a few great plays, yeah, but so did Janis. Hell, even Ruvell Martin had a couple of nice catches. I want to see the guy continue to produce once he has shown up on some radar screens before announcing his arrival. Until then he's just another UFA with some intriguing potential.

I don't think the Janis comparison is apt because Arod has confidence in Lazard that he never had in Janis. The Ruvell Martin comparison is closer because they're both big receivers who are not blessed with great speed. I get the sense though that Lazard is able to get a little better separation off the line than Ruvell did.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Who plays in the slot? Does MVS play? He has more 40+ yard catches than anyone in the NFL according to some twitter post some where this week that I don’t give a fuck to site....

Aside from Shepherd, and he kinda sucks, the Packers don’t really have a true slotman (unless Ryan Grant surprises everyone). I’d just move guys inside and outside interchangeably, ala Jennings and Nelson during the old regime.

[mraynrand]

Lazard looks stronger than Ruvell.

[texaspackerbacker]

Maybe not this season, but at some point, I'd like to see them experiment with switching Lazard to TE.

At some point, I think Shepherd gets out of the dog house and helps the team as a slot receiver.

I don't like the idea of Adams in the slot because 1. he seems better outside than going across the middle and 2. I don't like slant routes in general.

Calling Allison a sloth is getting old and decreasingly accurate. The guy gets the job done more often than not on a good variety of routes.

I also want to see more of Kumerow.

What does all that add up to? 1. We absolutely do not need additional WRs either by trade or draft. 2. We should go with more 3 and 4 and rarely even 5 WR sets with one or the other of Lazard or Kumerow in the slot, using them more like H backs or TEs than the way most teams use the slot man - kinda the way Oakland killed us with Waller in the middle of the field. That and keep Adams and MVS on the outside with Allison and Kumerow rotating with the other two.