Utilization of the Packers WRs when Adams comes back....

[pbmax]

There's no guarantee somebody drafted in the second round would be "another Davante Adams". For that matter, the real Davante Adams wasn't too highly thought of for the first couple of years we had him - I'd venture to say, not as good as Kumerow and Lazard have been so far in their careers.

Everyone was high on Davante in his first year. His second year (foot/ankle injury) was the disappointment.

[ThunderDan]

There's no guarantee somebody drafted in the second round would be "another Davante Adams". For that matter, the real Davante Adams wasn't too highly thought of for the first couple of years we had him - I'd venture to say, not as good as Kumerow and Lazard have been so far in their careers.

When either Kumerow or Lazard go for 38 catches, 446 yards and 3 TDs please call me.

Kumerow is already in year 2 and has 12 career catches. Only Lazard has a chance to get anywhere close to those numbers in his rookie year.

[bobblehead]

To fully utilize Rodgers greatness you spread the ball. Its time to dish Adams for a couple of firsts.

[bobblehead]

Maybe not this season, but at some point, I'd like to see them experiment with switching Lazard to TE.

At some point, I think Shepherd gets out of the dog house and helps the team as a slot receiver.

I don't like the idea of Adams in the slot because 1. he seems better outside than going across the middle and 2. I don't like slant routes in general.

Calling Allison a sloth is getting old and decreasingly accurate. The guy gets the job done more often than not on a good variety of routes.

I also want to see more of Kumerow.

What does all that add up to? 1. We absolutely do not need additional WRs either by trade or draft. 2. We should go with more 3 and 4 and rarely even 5 WR sets with one or the other of Lazard or Kumerow in the slot, using them more like H backs or TEs than the way most teams use the slot man - kinda the way Oakland killed us with Waller in the middle of the field. That and keep Adams and MVS on the outside with Allison and Kumerow rotating with the other two.

They talked about Lazard becoming a TE, but decided against it. The way they use him is sort of old school Jimmy Graham anyway. Now they need to use him down the seam center field where Graham used to destroy souls. If he gets that down I don't care what they label him. I'll just call him the 6-5 230 pound soul crusher.

[bobblehead]

We'll draft a WR high next year. MVS is nice as a #3, but he has no ball skills. People don't gain that once they get in the NFL, so he'll likely be that for the rest of his career. It's why I wasn't upset with Rodgers first ball to him. Any deeper and MVS probably lobsters it.

James Jones anyone? MVS is a definite #2 talent. He is closing in on earning that title. He needs one more offseason of work in this offense. I still want to draft some WR/RB/TE talent early next year, but great WR are less important the better your D and QB are.

[RashanGary]

James Jones anyone? MVS is a definite #2 talent. He is closing in on earning that title. He needs one more offseason of work in this offense. I still want to draft some WR/RB/TE talent early next year, but great WR are less important the better your D and QB are.

It’s hard for me to put exact labels on guys. There are some, like Adams that just fit a common mold. Kind of your prototype do everything #1 WR.

Then you have guys who are just like Adams in that they do everything but not quite as well. James Jones comes to mind.

But then you have your odd ducks.... your Anquan Boldens and Desean Jackson’s and Wes Welkers. They don’t do everything well. In fact, theyre flat out pathetic in some areas. This is where good coaching is required. MVS is in this category and the reason I think the common fan is confused in how they’re labeling him is because they’re trying to fit him in a box that they’re accustomed to seeing.

MVS is an elite deep threat.

Elite speed
When the deep ball is on the air, he sees it quick and adjusts immediately
He has rare movement for a guy 6’4 so not only does he see it, but he has the ability to make adjustments at full speed
And his hands on deep throws are elite


If you’re a common fan, you say, he doesn’t fit into the complete box that i have permanently engrained in my rigid mind. So you dismiss him. A creative, open minded person sees how to accentuate his stengths and find a role for him in a dominant offense.

But what do I know, I’m just a mindless caveman mentaltard.

[pbmax]

To fully utilize Rodgers greatness you spread the ball. Its time to dish Adams for a couple of firsts.

Its like putting a helmet on a Jedi with the opaque blast shield down.

Waiting until you see Sanjay Beach open is just slowing you down.

[RashanGary]

James Jones anyone? MVS is a definite #2 talent. He is closing in on earning that title. He needs one more offseason of work in this offense. I still want to draft some WR/RB/TE talent early next year, but great WR are less important the better your D and QB are.

My theory is that MVS is an unusual talent in that he’s got mega stengths and mega weaknesses. Lazard is similar on that he’s got mega strengths and mega weaknesses. The cool thing is those two guys have opposite strengths and opposite weaknesses. With a little creative coaching to put guys in the right situations, I think we’re ok this year.

I’d like another Davante though. I’m down for getting better in any area.

[texaspackerbacker]

If you're talking about drafting a "Davante-like" WR in the first or second round, the comparison shouldn't be to a couple of UDFAs even if they are looking damn good. The comparison should be to what is expected of a high round WR draft pick. Adams was probably that even in his first couple of seasons, but the point is, with a few very very rare exceptions, you don't even expect WRs drafted early to become early superstars. And the more pertinent point than that is that a lot of them never do develop to be stars. Virtually no way you're gonna get a Beckham or Julio Jones, and probably well under 50/50 that you get a Davante Adams.

So considering how good our WRs are now, it would be stupid to draft one that high - or at all.

[mraynrand]

James Jones anyone? MVS is a definite #2 talent. He is closing in on earning that title. He needs one more offseason of work in this offense. I still want to draft some WR/RB/TE talent early next year, but great WR are less important the better your D and QB are.

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[run pMc]

So considering how good our WRs are now, it would be stupid to draft one that high - or at all.

Wow...that's a hot take I strongly disagree with. Looking at NFL WR squads, how many would you rank Green Bay above? Maybe 8 or 10? Besides Rodgers, Adams, and A.Jones, who are the legitimate playmakers on offense?
Even if Adams was healthy, GB receivers aren't a Top 10 group. Rodgers and a bad Oakland secondary made the WRs look better than they are. Give Rodgers another weapon or two and the MLF offense could be deadly. Maybe MVS develops, and maybe ESB comes back next year, and those are Day 3 gambles worth taking...but ignoring the position is dangerous and will only feed a narrative about wasting Rodgers with subpar/no talent and letting a window close.

Imagine if the OL consisted of Corey Linsley, Cole Madison, and a bunch of Alex Light UDFAs. Rodgers and the offense would suffer. It's the same idea with this group of WRs IMO.
You have to invest some draft capital in almost every position on the team (exceptions: LS, P, K and FB) or you end up starting M.D. Jennings or Darrius Sheppard.

[RashanGary]

I have a feeling Adams will practice a little this week.

[texaspackerbacker]

run pMc, I'll throw it back to you: how many teams do you see with a better overall corps of WRs - with Adams healthy, of course?

Playmakers? With Rodgers throwing, any or all of our WRs or RBs for that matter are playmakers. We're just 3 days out from that last game, and people are already denying what their lying eyes told them?

Atlanta can lose pretty consistently with a playmaker like Julio Jones. I can't even remember who Beckham plays for this season. Amari Cooper is special, but they're 4 and 3 with him playing at a high level. Meanwhile, we are 6-1 with a lot of tough games behind us using those guys who some say don't qualify as playmakers.

We have 5 excellent WRs plus Shepherd - who I still think will get to be a quality player - and St. Brown coming back next season. I say again, we really don't need a shot in the dark that might or might not turn out to be another Davante Adams, and we don't even need a lower rounder to take the place of one of the seven we have.

[RashanGary]

Guess Adams is back at practice. Savage too.

I’m guessing neither play this week. If they do play, I’m guessing about 25% of snaps.

Next week, I envision both playing for sure about half the snaps. And then full time after that.

[pbmax]

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