Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[RashanGary]

Laviska shanault would be interesting. Kind of a young Josh Gordon but more stable and accountable

[pbmax]

Seriously? hahahaha

Even if you aren't exhibiting Rand-level sarcasm and are serious, a fumble is about 50/50 to be recovered by our side, while a pick is a pick is a pick - straight to the other team.

My error. Should have said fumbles lost.

[pbmax]

I want my QB to take calculated risks, but generally be risk averse. I like that Rodgers is generally careful with the ball, but it's almost to a fault. My comment was more to the issue of the big receiver corps -- Rodgers isn't going to throw to these guys even though they have 5" or 6" on a CB, so they would be just as well served by a 6'1" guy who can run routes. Compare to some other QBs (including Bert Farve) who would put the ball up for a big receiver to outjump the CB for. I'd bet on Lazard to win more jumpballs than footraces.

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Lazard is an example of a big WR he trusts. But he doesn’t continue to trust them if like MVS he can’t compete for the ball successfully. Taken to an extreme that will hurt you. But it’s also not incumbent on Rodgers to say “your tall, here’s a jump ball” more than a couple times before going somewhere else.

I think Rand is on right track. You need a professional WR who will adapt to the QB, have good hands, fight for the ball and run predictable routes.

You know what you do? If ILB is not there (or as Huber thinks they might do, your OT is not there either) you trade down and get Jennings or Nelson plus an extra pick.

[wthigoot]

I’m seeing a lot of posters going after Reagor with our second pick(while I love it) I just don’t believe it will be realistic after the combine. There is strong possibility he will run sub 4.3 and jump over 40 inches. His numbers we’re down a little this season but that was due to horrible QB play. He is a first round talent that might make it to the middle to top of second round due to excess WR talent. IMO the Packers would have to trade up in second to get him. Someone will fall in love with his speed and ability to play bigger then his 5’11 frame way way before pick 62. Heck, there is a good chance Reagor doesn’t even make it to pick 30

If the Packers stick to there draft position in second round and address the WR position there I think Brandon Aiyuk will be the best available option for what is needed.

https://youtu.be/42o5FbxDW8k

Also, I don’t think Murray will be there at 30 but way better chance then Reagor at 62.

What would you think of doing the typical Ted Thompson thing and trading down into the top of round 2 for an extra 4th, then taking Reagor?

Wonder what would be the other options if someone takes Reagor right before the pick comes up.

Still an extra 4th could amount to something. Every time Ted did that it seems like the guy got hurt and then washed out.

[GB-Brandon]

Laviska shanault would be interesting. Kind of a young Josh Gordon but more stable and accountable

Another guy(Shanault) I would love to see in Green and Gold but just don’t see him making it to pick 30 post combine.

I just hope the Packers don’t “reach” for Jefferson(LSU). Got done watching quite a bit of film on him and he isn’t “separating” enough for me along with working mostly against other teams no.2’s. Throw in Burrow as his QB and not being that big(192lbs) or explosive makes him a “stay away” for me real early in draft.

[GB-Brandon]

What would you think of doing the typical Ted Thompson thing and trading down into the top of round 2 for an extra 4th, then taking Reagor?

Wonder what would be the other options if someone takes Reagor right before the pick comes up.

Still an extra 4th could amount to something. Every time Ted did that it seems like the guy got hurt and then washed out.

My belief is you attack the board and get the guys you want and LOVE. Playing “cutsie” potentially leaves you telling the media “We picked the best player available” while the fans are scratching there heads over the pick-etc. etc.

With the lack of investing any real premium capital(both draft and free agency) at the position for quite some time and Aaron Rodgers showing some signs of age the Packers can’t afford to screw this up. Urgency is of the essence. It doesn’t mean we need to panic but if nothing is done to bolster this WR position in free agency/trade they better run to the podium and get Reagor IMO if he is there at 30.

[Joemailman]

Another guy(Shanault) I would love to see in Green and Gold but just don’t see him making it to pick 30 post combine.

I just hope the Packers don’t “reach” for Jefferson(LSU). Got done watching quite a bit of film on him and he isn’t “separating” enough for me along with working mostly against other teams no.2’s. Throw in Burrow as his QB and not being that big(192lbs) or explosive makes him a “stay away” for me real early in draft.

What you saw seems to agree with what I read about him:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/j...son/esI1JY8rYR

Cons: Although he will likely test with sufficient deep speed overall, his play speed often appears slower than that. He’s not a dynamic athlete with regards to change of direction, movement skills and short area agility. Needs to be more consistent coming off the ball hard to threaten the defender in off coverage as the game progresses. Has some instances of allowing the ball to get into his frame in the short to intermediate area. Due to his lack of elite dynamic ability in a short area, he needs to become more consistent at extending on his catches. He may very well be in a lot of contested catch situations against man coverage. For as athletic as he is, he doesn't always create separation at the top of the route against man. He also needs to use his hands better to defeat press. He could afford to be more consistent with attention to detail in regards to route depth at critical points in the game.

[GB-Brandon]

I posted the results of the mock that had Reagor taken at 62, but I agree that won't happen. I think the most likely scenario is that they either take Murray or Queen at 30 (If available). If not they trade down into the early 2nd round and take Reagor or some other WR.

What happens in free agency will probably give us a clearer vision of what and who they are targeting.

I’m a huge Jordyn Brooks fan in round 2 along with signing Littleton.

[GB-Brandon]

What you saw seems to agree with what I read about him:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/j...son/esI1JY8rYR

I completely agree with all that. I’m pretty sure he isn’t what we’re looking for.

[texaspackerbacker]

Shenault had a reported 4.35 40 time, but the consensus for him was about 4.59. Aiyuk is supposedly about 4.48. Jefferson also is in that non-burner range. I'd be ok with Reagor with our #1 pick, but I'd prefer D Line or Corner in the first round and Duvernay in the second round. His 40 time was 4.38; He was also Texas high school 100 meter champion at 10.77; And he played for a major college - against major college competition including L.S.U. and Oklahoma.

Some might say 40 time doesn't mean much, but if a guy can run 40 yards in a little over 4 seconds, then 1 second is about 10 yards, and .1 second is about a yard of separation down field - which I'd say is significant.

[GB-Brandon]

Shenault had a reported 4.35 40 time, but the consensus for him was about 4.59. Aiyuk is supposedly about 4.48. Jefferson also is in that non-burner range. I'd be ok with Reagor with our #1 pick, but I'd prefer D Line or Corner in the first round and Duvernay in the second round. His 40 time was 4.38; He was also Texas high school 100 meter champion at 10.77; And he played for a major college - against major college competition including L.S.U. and Oklahoma.

Some might say 40 time doesn't mean much, but if a guy can run 40 yards in a little over 4 seconds, then 1 second is about 10 yards, and .1 second is about a yard of separation down field - which I'd say is significant.

As posted I would not be angry if they drafted Raekwon Davis at 30 as the “Northwestern Twins” kinda made me sick too my stomach via the Niners game. However, the Packers need to have a plan to revamp that receiving corp that includes more then just continuing to develop Lazzard, G-Mo, MVS, Kummerow, Sheppard and taking some flier on day 3.

I don’t see how they could possibly draft yet another corner with a 1st round pick. I wouldn’t mind a pick later in the draft to bring someone In to compete but we’re pretty set with King, Savage(year 2), Amos and Alexander. I don’t think the problem with this defense is on the back end. I believe it’s not having anyone after Kenny Clark on the D-Line and asking too much of a player such as Blake Martinez.

[wthigoot]

My belief is you attack the board and get the guys you want and LOVE. Playing “cutsie” potentially leaves you telling the media “We picked the best player available” while the fans are scratching there heads over the pick-etc. etc.

With the lack of investing any real premium capital(both draft and free agency) at the position for quite some time and Aaron Rodgers showing some signs of age the Packers can’t afford to screw this up. Urgency is of the essence. It doesn’t mean we need to panic but if nothing is done to bolster this WR position in free agency/trade they better run to the podium and get Reagor IMO if he is there at 30.

Great answer if speedy WR is very much the #1 priority and/or if Reagor is THE guy. Then that's the pick at 30.

If otherwise, consider this board: https://gbnreport.com/2020-top-100/

Trade from 30 to 37 and add a 4th, will get one of:

30 C.J. Henderson CB 6-1, 191 Florida
31 Brandon Aiyuk WR 6-1, 195 Arizona State
32 D'Andre Swift RB 5-9, 215 Georgia
33 Mekhi Becton OT 6-7, 369 Louisville
34 Cole Kmet TE 6-6, 250 Notre Dame
35 Netani Muti OG 6-3, 307 Fresno State
36 Jalen Reagor WR 5-11, 195 Texas Christian
37 Raekwon Davis DT 6-7, 312 Alabama

Might get Reagor or Aiyuk, but any one of the others could certainly help.

What could the extra 4th (around pick 105 or so) go for?

Quartney Davis WR 6-2 200 4.41e Texas A&M
Lynn Bowden WR 6-1 199 4.50e Kentucky
Quez Watkins WR 6-2 190 4.31e Southern Mississippi

Speed there, but if they are that low there are probably some drawbacks too. Hope it's not hands of stone. Very interesting to think about; looking forward to see how things change on approach to the draft.

[GB-Brandon]

Great answer if speedy WR is very much the #1 priority and/or if Reagor is THE guy. Then that's the pick at 30.

If otherwise, consider this board: https://gbnreport.com/2020-top-100/

Trade from 30 to 37 and add a 4th, will get one of:

30 C.J. Henderson CB 6-1, 191 Florida
31 Brandon Aiyuk WR 6-1, 195 Arizona State
32 D'Andre Swift RB 5-9, 215 Georgia
33 Mekhi Becton OT 6-7, 369 Louisville
34 Cole Kmet TE 6-6, 250 Notre Dame
35 Netani Muti OG 6-3, 307 Fresno State
36 Jalen Reagor WR 5-11, 195 Texas Christian
37 Raekwon Davis DT 6-7, 312 Alabama

Might get Reagor or Aiyuk, but any one of the others could certainly help.

What could the extra 4th (around pick 105 or so) go for?

Quartney Davis WR 6-2 200 4.41e Texas A&M
Lynn Bowden WR 6-1 199 4.50e Kentucky
Quez Watkins WR 6-2 190 4.31e Southern Mississippi

Speed there, but if they are that low there are probably some drawbacks too. Hope it's not hands of stone. Very interesting to think about; looking forward to see how things change on approach to the draft.

I like a scenario where we get a combination of R Davis and either Reagor or Aiyuk. Whether Gute has to trade back and then trade back up to make that happen remains to be seen. For this to happen Gute will certainly need to upgrade the ILB position via free agency.

Edit: I’m familiar with your 4th round targets but need to dig deeper.

[wthigoot]

I like a scenario where we get a combination of R Davis and either Reagor or Aiyuk. Whether Gute has to trade back and then trade back up to make that happen remains to be seen. For this to happen Gute will certainly need to upgrade the ILB position via free agency.

Edit: I’m familiar with your 4th round targets but need to dig deeper.

I like a scenario where we get a combination of R Davis and either Reagor or Aiyuk.

I would like that a lot also as of now. I think it would require the Packers 2021 2nd at least to get it done. Might be worth it if the guys pan out, as window with Rodgers is narrowing.

[wthigoot]

Lazard is an example of a big WR he trusts. But he doesn’t continue to trust them if like MVS he can’t compete for the ball successfully. Taken to an extreme that will hurt you. But it’s also not incumbent on Rodgers to say “your tall, here’s a jump ball” more than a couple times before going somewhere else.

I think Rand is on right track. You need a professional WR who will adapt to the QB, have good hands, fight for the ball and run predictable routes.

You know what you do? If ILB is not there (or as Huber thinks they might do, your OT is not there either) you trade down and get Jennings or Nelson plus an extra pick.

As usual pbmax is one step ahead. Honestly my very next post was not a direct ripoff. Reduced to claiming (not so believeably) GMTA here.