2020 NFL Draft: Underated vs Overated players.

[pbmax]

Do you draft him if he's there at 30 ? Can't imagine he would be....but do you ?

Possibly not.

Derrik Klassen @QBKlass
I charted the top nine QBs of the 2020 draft class. At least 300 attempts for all QBs.

Adjusted accuracy scores, target heat maps, accuracy heat maps, playing environment context, etc. — whatever data you need, it's here.

Sortable spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[run pMc]

Derrik Klassen @QBKlass
I charted the top nine QBs of the 2020 draft class. At least 300 attempts for all QBs.

Adjusted accuracy scores, target heat maps, accuracy heat maps, playing environment context, etc. — whatever data you need, it's here.

Confirms my opinion that I don't want Eason or Jordan Love. Stanley and Fromm -- oof.

[mraynrand]

PBmax, what’s the longest organizational chart PowerPoint you’ve made or watched as part of your regular work? (Total number of slides with boxes and arrows) I suspect you work somewhere in Dilbertland. 😀

[smuggler]

Chart also seems to suggest Burrow didn't see much pressure last season (compared to Herbert). Incredible to think Herbert might be the best pro in the class. Not sure I buy it.

[pbmax]

PBmax, what’s the longest organizational chart PowerPoint you’ve made or watched as part of your regular work? (Total number of slides with boxes and arrows) I suspect you work somewhere in Dilbertland. ��

Not that long. Watched? Probably 100 for presentations about business plans or software solutions.

Created? Its usually project specifics so I'd say never more than 30.

But that was the past. Almost all presentations now are websites and end user focused.

I have created some long customer surveys that looked like a bureaucratic flowchart when I got done though

[pbmax]

Confirms my opinion that I don't want Eason or Jordan Love. Stanley and Fromm -- oof.

I have seen him pay only in game highlights on Saturday, but in that chart Eason looks like he is great in a system where he gets the first read on play action. After that, things get bad in a hurry. A system QB kinda thing.

[pbmax]

So Packers areas of need are:

1. WR
2. ILB
3. OL
4. DL
5. CB

You can get CBs late. WR is deep so you don't have to do that in Round 1. There are also some good 2nd round and lower OL and you could get Veldheer back. ILB they might think they have addressed with Kirksey and will put a larger run-stuffing vet minimum body with him next year and pray depth blossoms from one of the turds.

But DL would need to be a high pick. Gute seems to be saying he is OK with the DL and that was a comment before the drafts silly season (though it doesn't mean he was entirely honest *)

If Gute is really convinced his DL and ILB are OK, I can see him taking a dropping QB, though no one but Burrow and Herbert strike me as considerations at the first pick like Rodgers was. Not sure I buy the Jordan Love stories.

My money would be on targeting a trade down to get another pick in first four rounds.


* He did say he imagined they were going to remake the middle linebackers though, which has happened

[texaspackerbacker]

Do you draft him if he's there at 30 ? Can't imagine he would be....but do you ?

A gigantic hell no to that!

[Bretsky]

So Packers areas of need are:

1. WR
2. ILB
3. OL
4. DL
5. CB

You can get CBs late. WR is deep so you don't have to do that in Round 1. There are also some good 2nd round and lower OL and you could get Veldheer back. ILB they might think they have addressed with Kirksey and will put a larger run-stuffing vet minimum body with him next year and pray depth blossoms from one of the turds.

But DL would need to be a high pick. Gute seems to be saying he is OK with the DL and that was a comment before the drafts silly season (though it doesn't mean he was entirely honest *)

If Gute is really convinced his DL and ILB are OK, I can see him taking a dropping QB, though no one but Burrow and Herbert strike me as considerations at the first pick like Rodgers was. Not sure I buy the Jordan Love stories.

My money would be on targeting a trade down to get another pick in first four rounds.


* He did say he imagined they were going to remake the middle linebackers though, which has happened

Not sure I agree with you on the your WR assumption.

But I am convinced our WR's are so pathetic we need "2" guys that can contribute.

Not saying we have to go WR in round one, but that is my bias. By the 60th pick IMO you'll see all of the top two tier's of WR's gone.

[texaspackerbacker]

I would not have brought in Funchess, but since they did, we don't need two in the draft - unless Funchess becomes a TE or we keep 7 WRs altogether.

[pbmax]

Not sure I agree with you on the your WR assumption.

But I am convinced our WR's are so pathetic we need "2" guys that can contribute.

Not saying we have to go WR in round one, but that is my bias. By the 60th pick IMO you'll see all of the top two tier's of WR's gone.

I agree but Funchess is insurance if they can't get their top tier in the first two rounds at WR.

[Deputy Nutz]

Packers receiver depth
1. Adams - Lock for Roster
2. Allen Lazard - Lock
3. Valdez-Scantling - Lock, possible trade for 2021 late rounder
4. Jake Kumerow - Less than 50/50
5. Devin Fuchness - Lock
6. St. Brown -50/50
7. Darius Shepard -Returner

Packers are going to draft a receiver within the first 4 rounds of the draft. I say fourth round because there could be 4 maybe 5 dudes that could be available that late that could put up some numbers in 2020.

[texaspackerbacker]

You might be right about WR quality continuing all the way to the 4th or 5th round. Just the same, I think we snag one sooner - as I have said, Duvernay in the 3rd or 2nd, or maybe even Mims or Reagor. I definitely don't want anybody who ain't a speed burner.

I pretty much agree with your assessment of what we already have - which is why I doubt we draft more than one WR. It will surprise me and piss me off if they give up on Valdez-Scantling and give him away for a late round pick. I'd like to see them keep St. Brown and Kumerow too. Shepherd only stays if he can beat out Ervin, and he's got an uphill battle there.

[smuggler]

Shepherd is fucked. Ervin is back for returns.

[run pMc]

Right now I'm not even convinced Funchess is a Lock -- I'd say his chances are very good to make the roster given his competition, but if he doesn't look great in camp that contract isn't so bad (for some reason I'm thinking it's mostly roster/performance bonuses) they can't dump him.

I think we'll know what Gute really thinks about the WR group based on how many and where he drafts them.
Darrius Shepard has a big uphill battle to make the roster.

One WR I've not seen much talk about -- does that make him underrated? -- is Tyler Johnson out of MN. This guy should be there in R3-4 and is (according to some) a better player than Cephus.