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  • #46
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    I don't think of Bortles or Tannehill as guys who can carry a team,
    you are very much missing my point...or maybe just making your own point that is sort of off the rez a touch. I 1000% agree neither of these guys can carry a team. Neither can 28 of the 32 starters in this league.

    The thread, and the point is about not paying one of the other 28 starters and putting yourself in cap hell and "hoping" Dak Prescott can carry a team. No way do I make Dak highest paid QB in the game. I would be looking to trade him ASAP.

    right now, as a GM I pay Maholmes, and Brees top deals. Watson, Jackson, Wilson and Rodgers right behind them. Watson and Jackson need to show it for a year or 2 more. Watson desperately needs to escape O'Brien. Rodgers may be off the list this season if year 2 under Flower doesn't improve. I was hoping to sign one offensive weapon for him though as getting instant upgrade from the draft is tough at WR or TE.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      you are very much missing my point...or maybe just making your own point that is sort of off the rez a touch. I 1000% agree neither of these guys can carry a team. Neither can 28 of the 32 starters in this league.

      The thread, and the point is about not paying one of the other 28 starters and putting yourself in cap hell and "hoping" Dak Prescott can carry a team. No way do I make Dak highest paid QB in the game. I would be looking to trade him ASAP.

      right now, as a GM I pay Maholmes, and Brees top deals. Watson, Jackson, Wilson and Rodgers right behind them. Watson and Jackson need to show it for a year or 2 more. Watson desperately needs to escape O'Brien. Rodgers may be off the list this season if year 2 under Flower doesn't improve. I was hoping to sign one offensive weapon for him though as getting instant upgrade from the draft is tough at WR or TE.

      You get my exact point. What is this madness with giving Elite Money to Non Elite QB's ???????????/
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      • #48
        you are very much missing my point...or maybe just making your own point that is sort of off the rez a touch.
        More or less. I just don't see paying elite money for a QB who can't carry your team or lift your offense. I see Bortles and Tannehill more as game managers than game changers.

        Thing with participating in FA is you will overpay for production. FA is where (with few exceptions) you pay elite money for average production.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          More or less. I just don't see paying elite money for a QB who can't carry your team or lift your offense. I see Bortles and Tannehill more as game managers than game changers.

          Thing with participating in FA is you will overpay for production. FA is where (with few exceptions) you pay elite money for average production.
          But carry your offense is a broad and not well defined category. Its like saying you should draft difference makers. OK Cleft Crusty.

          Bobble's distinction isn't better. So there are 4 qualifying QBs out of 28 or so regular staters. So how so you break down the rest? They aren't all going to play for the veteran minimum. Mike "Freaking" Glennon got $16 million.

          Do you think Bortles improves, diminishes or keeps the Titans the same offense?

          What they are really paying for is the marginal difference between Bortles and Tannehill. How much that is will determine whether this investment makes sense. Overall, I have my doubts. But he looked lights out last year. I get it.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            But carry your offense is a broad and not well defined category. Its like saying you should draft difference makers. OK Cleft Crusty.
            Someone mentioned my name. But that's not my view. It may however be the view of my doppelgänger from JSO, GBG and now the Packers' 'historian'

            Please remember that it is very difficult for me to counter any lies told about me at this time - I am residing in a triple-layered, plastic-coated room with negative air pressure to guard against the coronavirus. My doctor has told me that I have enough co-morbidities to kill at least 8 old people.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
              Someone mentioned my name. But that's not my view. It may however be the view of my doppelgänger from JSO, GBG and now the Packers' 'historian'

              Please remember that it is very difficult for me to counter any lies told about me at this time - I am residing in a triple-layered, plastic-coated room with negative air pressure to guard against the coronavirus. My doctor has told me that I have enough co-morbidities to kill at least 8 old people.
              Apologies Cleft. Perhaps it was Cliff that used to prattle on about red and blue players.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                you are very much missing my point...or maybe just making your own point that is sort of off the rez a touch. I 1000% agree neither of these guys can carry a team. Neither can 28 of the 32 starters in this league.

                The thread, and the point is about not paying one of the other 28 starters and putting yourself in cap hell and "hoping" Dak Prescott can carry a team. No way do I make Dak highest paid QB in the game. I would be looking to trade him ASAP.

                right now, as a GM I pay Maholmes, and Brees top deals. Watson, Jackson, Wilson and Rodgers right behind them. Watson and Jackson need to show it for a year or 2 more. Watson desperately needs to escape O'Brien. Rodgers may be off the list this season if year 2 under Flower doesn't improve. I was hoping to sign one offensive weapon for him though as getting instant upgrade from the draft is tough at WR or TE.
                Arguably, the insanity is paying athletes in general ridiculous amounts of money.

                It's supply and demand, though, and that pretty much includes QBs. These guys get paid more than RBs in large part because they last longer.

                Dak Prescott, as I see it, is head and shoulders above the bad examples cited earlier - Tannehill, Cousins, etc. He does not deserve to be at the very top, though. I agree with what you said about those top guys with one exception: Brees at this point is fading a bit, and his whole career, he has never been as good as Aaron Rodgers. When I said Rodgers, Wilson, and Mahomes earlier, I forgot about Jackson and Watson, although Jackson in particular may be one serious injury away from a major drop-off. I'd be more sure of greatness for Rodgers 3-5 years from now than for one of those young running QBs. And Brees will be long gone by then.
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