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Do you understand how football works?
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Ooh! Shots fired.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.Comment
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Yeah I played at a pretty high level so I think I’m qualified.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
Let me tell ya “How It Works”
Number 1. STOP THE FU****G Run!!!!
Number 2. Once you “Can Stop the Run” and get teams “behind the chains” then provide pass rush with ball Hawks in the Secondary and have some success.
Number 3. STOP THE FU****G Run!!!
Number 4. STOP THE FU****G Run!!!
Is this making sense? I think it’s a pretty simple concept. Somehow we’ve practiced it backwards and got “RAN THE F*** OVER”
Also, quit drafting people out of position with top picks with all these fantasies of what they could do. Draft them to do what they do well and implement them that way. Pretty simple stuff?
I think so.Comment
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This is how Football “is not supposed to work”. I can tell ya that too.
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It blows me away how ten years of drafting defense first along with spending huge $ in free agency and we can’t even “STOP THE RUN”
It’s embarrassing!!!Comment
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That entire game can be summed up on SF's first scoring play. 3rd and 8 from GB's 36. The confidence and audacity to run a draw. Untouched for a TD.Comment
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They were obviously issued “roller skates” before the game because they got moved all over the field in the worst way. It wasn’t even close how bad they got beat upfront.
So Yeah, I want a big bully that can occupy his space on early run downs and run heavy teams. Right now we have one guy that can do it in this Gizmo Defense. Tired of this finesse crap. Go take someone’s lunch $ upfront.
“Basic Stuff”Comment
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My DL Board:
Code:1 1 Derrick Brown Auburn 2 1 Javon Kinlaw South Carolina 3 1-2 Neville Gallimore Oklahoma 4 2 Ross Blacklock TCU 5 2 Justin Madubuike Texas A&M 6 2-3 Raekwon Davis Alabama 7 2-3 Marlon Davidson Auburn 8 3 Leki Fotu Utah 9 3-4 Jordan Elliott Missouri 10 3-4 DaVon Hamilton Ohio State 11 4 McTelvin Agim Arkansas 12 4 James Lynch Baylor 13 4-5 Rashard Lawrence LSU 14 4-5 Larrell Murchison North Carolina State 15 5-6 Raequan Williams Michigan State 16 5-6 Khalil Davis Nebraska 17 6-7 Bravvion Roy Baylor 18 6-7 Nick Coe Auburn 19 7-FA Benito Jones Mississippi Other DL that I watched, but deemed as UDFA: Josiah Coatney, Malcolm Roach, John Penisini
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Either use the word "FUCK" or don't. Grow up.Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
Run pluggers are nice, but the league switched about a 2 decades ago where offenses were throwing the football at all time high. The high priced, one down or two down defensive lineman that weighed 340 pounds that just squatted in a gap became a dinosaur in the NFL. It is also the same reason you don't need 250 pound middle linebackers that can cover. If the Packers or any other team is going to play two down in their nickel or dime defense then you better draft or sign guys that can hold against the run and get pressure as well. I agree the Northwestern guys are not an ideal fit for a hybrid 3-4 defense, short on length and athleticism doesn't work well, and if you are going to have guys short on talent, then you should diversify that group as much as possible.
So San Fran realized that they have an over priced QB that can't really move the ball consistently with his arm, so they relied on a zone scheme and had a lot of success with it especially against the Packers. I think it is great for football as high powered running attacks have always been my favorite thing to watch. Defenses should take not and can't build only to stop the pass, this means carrying one or two less defensive backs and one or two more box players, but I don't think the tide has completely shifted yet on the high profile passing game in the NFL.Comment
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SF did that most of the year to teams, not just GB. Running was their bread and butter and set up everything else they did. Daddy Shanahan was a big run guy too.
I do think Kenny Clark needs a running mate on the line, and I don't think Lowry or Lancaster is that person. They are decent depth guys but not starter worthy. I'm not convinced this is the draft where they will find that person, but you never know. Keke might emerge or maybe (unlikely) Monty Adams finally figures it out and plays up to his potential.
As for LBs, I'd rather have speed at that level than big dudes. I would keep one big plugger for 4th and short. The passing game is a major part of the game and you need guys who can cover IMO. Not a fan of playing just any safety as a moneybacker, but some can do it. Amos goes about 6'0 210 and Greene is listed at 5'11 200, that's on the small side for dealing with OG's moveing to the second level. I'd think for that you'd want a bigger safety in the Josh Jones mold (Tanner Muse? Chinn?) who have better size and length to shed/avoid blocks.
The other thing with SF running on GB is it sounds like Pettine emphasizes defending the pass over the run, and it also sounds like they don't play a lot of straight 3-4 like they did in the NFCCG. So Shanahan had a smart if obvious game plan - make GB stop the run and play a seldom used defense package. I would expect Pettine will change it up a bit and focus on improving the run defense if he wants to keep his job.Comment
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Packers don't have a safety that is a natural hybrid "moneybacker". I think there are a couple mid rounders and late rounders in this draft that you could take a swing at and see if they work out.
Against San Fran in the Playoffs, I thought both Smiths played like garbage, and I think Martinez really struggled in combination with the poor play of the Smiths. Lancaster and Lowry demonstrated they can't hold up playing every down.Comment
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The bottom line is there are teams like the Niners, Titans, Seahawks Ravens that are “run first teams”
So you either get a guy or two that can hold up and have the ability to be versatile scheme wise or pray you don’t face them in the playoffs.
Once again for a franchise to draft defense first for ten years and break the bank on free agent acquisitions this is completely unacceptable. It has just become the same old worn out story over and over again.
The Tape is UGLY!!!!
The whole world saw how to run then Packers over. Expect teams to test the Packers run defense all year.Last edited by GB-Brandon; 04-22-2020, 11:41 AM.Comment
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This whole “Championship Style Defense” is a GIANT PIPE DREAM!!! Never gonna happen. Too many moving parts with franchise QB cap hit. It’s always been a “Failed Vision”
It was never gonna get any better for us on defense then last season. We had close too a 100 percent healthy roster. Where was our big 12th picks in the draft? He couldn’t even get on the field and get snaps cause he is so MEDIOCRE!!!
The chances are the Packers won’t be as healthy this year on defense. The odds don’t add up.
It’s a joke to keep pouring premium gasoline on this fire.
#INSANITYComment
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2011 Green Bay Packers Statistics & Players
Record: 15-1-0, 1st in NFC North Division (Schedule and Results)
Coach: Mike McCarthy (15-1-0)
Points For: 560 (35.0/g) 1st of 32.
Points Against: 359 (22.4/g) 19th of 32.
Expected W-L: 11.9-4.1.
Playoffs: Lost Divisional Round 20-37 vs.
Offensive Coordinator: Joe Philbin.
Defensive Coordinator: Dom Capers
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2019 Green Bay Packers Statistics & Players
Record: 13-3-0, 1st in NFC North Division (Schedule and Results)
Coach: Matt LaFleur (13-3-0)
Points For: 376 (23.5/g) 15th of 32.
Points Against: 313 (19.6/g) 9th of 32.
Expected W-L: 9.7-6.3.
Playoffs: Won Divisional Round 28-23 vs. ...
Offensive Coordinator: Nathaniel Hackett.
Defensive Coordinator: Mike Pettine.
Not just these stats, but overall your idea of offensive over defense is flawed. A good defense will keep you in games when your offense sputters. You simply can't have one without the other and the 2011 season demonstrated this. If the Packers are to make it back to the Super Bowl and win it they can't simply ignore the defensive issues. Gute is doing his best to remodel the defense, and at the same time add to the offense. I agree that the Packers need a to draft at least one receiver that can compete in 2019 and the Packers are lucky because this draft is loaded at receiver. It is why the round or exact pick doesn't matter. They could easily find a receiver in round three that could put up the same numbers as a receiver in round 1.
Lets remember the NFC Championship game fell on the shoulders of the defense, but the offense was absolutely terrible for the first 25 minutes of the game with lost yardage, turn overs, and consecutive 3 and outs. The defense took it on the chin, but the offense was dominated up front when they tried to pass. The offense didn't get going until adjustments were made in the running game.Comment
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