What’s your early take on Jordan Love?

[Joemailman]

It’s not fair to Jordan Love. He didn’t ask for this but he will not be welcomed by many. The guy is gonna be watched and criticized more then anyone ever. The pressure is gonna kill a guy that couldn’t even hold up to the pressure at Utah State.

Wrong time, Wrong Pick, Wrong guy.

[pbmax]

all that isn't happening in the couple of years Rodgers still has left as a "good" QB. he's down trending and costing them a fortune.

He is the tenth highest paid QB in 2020 in salary cap terms. You have convinced yourself of a cap reality that doesn't exist.

When he gets more expensive in the out years, other deals will surpass him and he still won't be top 5. And the cap will go WAY up so his percentage will drop.

You really just want to blame him for everything but the QB doesn't conduct the draft Gary. And they had WAY too many misses this decade on defense. If they had two other guys nearly as skilled as he was, this conversation wouldn't be happening.

Its not the QBs fault the team forgot how to draft offense while it couldn't draft defense (relatively speaking, still a Top 8 team in the League).

[ThunderDan]

i've no problem with the pick. it's not like they're a serious SB contender anyway. last year was a fluke. an entertaining fluke but a fluke nonetheless. they got lucky. Gute sees the reality of the situation and knows they're between a rock and a hard place. the cap is just making it even tighter. they need 6 good starters...CB, ILB, WR, OL, DT, and TE. they need to extend 69, Clark, Aaron Jones, and maybe even King. all that isn't happening in the couple of years Rodgers still has left as a "good" QB. he's down trending and costing them a fortune. he also doesn't like the system. this was partially a power move by Gute. he wants to make this HIS and MLF's team. MLF needs to be the man but Rodgers supplants him. he can't do anything with Rodgers. he'll actually get to coach Love and actually get to run HIS system. i think this may be Rodgers last season in GB. if not 2020, 2021 for sure. much depends on Love's progress and Rodgers performance and health.

But why extend ARod like they did?

I agree with what you said but ARods contract is a large stone around the Packers neck if you want to move on.

[run pMc]

Because it may have been one of the most destructive moves of all time. People can say “what’s done is done” but they can’t unwind this thing. This has the potential to create such compounding damage. My feeling is this will be talked about for years to come as we struggle to maintain any sort of relevance.

Gute could not of done anything more destructive at this point and time. It took INSANITY to a whole new level.

I imagine the waiting list to get tickets to Lambeau will shrink of epic proportions. Very sad day in such a storied franchise.

I love almost everything about this post. The level of hyperbole is astounding.

[Packers4Glory]

But why extend ARod like they did?

I agree with what you said but ARods contract is a large stone around the Packers neck if you want to move on.

I think they were looking at year 3 and 4 of that deal and thinking if Arod looks like he's toast which I think would come in year 3 not the next 2, then they won't need to scramble to find their next guy. I think they see it as the best of both worlds. they can let Love blossom behind Aaron and be ready to seamlessly step in. Otherwise you're looking at a much longer rebuild trying to find your next guy.

It would have made more sense had they not fucked up the number 12 pick last year. That's what really tarnishes this pick. They're not selling out to give Rodgers one last run over the next couple seasons. they're hedging their bets.

[Bretsky]

Maybe they can improve at backup QB by resigning Kizer.

I seem to remember people bitching and moaning about the deplorable state of the back up QB position when Rodgers was lost for the year not long ago. So they address it and now THATS the worst pick ever.

OK guys. You’ve convinced me.

I don't think there was much bitching, and even if somebody was they all wanted to sign an aging vet like Mcown

[MadScientist]

My takes:
1) Love has enough talent to be an excellent NFL QB.
2) He needs some development time.
3) Gute is regretting the contract extension he gave Rodgers.
a) Rodgers arm strength is no where near what it was before the second collarbone injury.
b) Rodgers either doesn't have the ability or the confidence to put the ball in a tight space.
c) Rodgers deep ball has lost a lot of speed and accuracy.
4) Rodgers is still a very smart player, perfect for Love to learn from
5) Rodgers won't tank, he'll try to prove the pick was a mistake by being too good.
6) Despite going 13-3 last year, Gute isn't sold on the talent of the team talent
7) They will try to trade Rodgers after the 2021 season, and cut him if no trades are possible.

Given the above, it is the right time for this pick. Time will tell if it's the right person that they picked.

[MadtownPacker]

Excellent post MadSci!!

You also forgot 8) He is White!

At least that’s how I feel.

[George Cumby]

oh and btw, i've been listening to the radio all day. the national guys are just destroying the pick

This gives me hope.

[pbmax]

But why extend ARod like they did?

I agree with what you said but ARods contract is a large stone around the Packers neck if you want to move on.

Good news is maybe they don't need to extend Jones now.

[Deputy Nutz]

Excellent post MadSci!!

You also forgot 8) He is White!

At least that’s how I feel.

Think about all the cool songs they can play over the P.A when he throws a touchdown pass? You can't beat that.

[Bretsky]

Good news is maybe they don't need to extend Jones now.

Jones is way better than this guy. There were some real deal 2nd round draft pick RB talent. They were gone when we picked. Just a puzzling selection. It can only get better.

[Joemailman]

[pbmax]

This rebuilding talk is ridiculous on its face.

1. Why sign Rodgers to the extension?
2. Why sign ANY of the FA last year?
3. If you signed them but have changed your mind, why not trade bodies to collect picks?
4. You partially tanked to help clear the decks of McCarthy. Why not do the same for Rodgers?

This isn't a team rebuilding. It is a team stuck with too many needs and too many vets. Confused might be the worst you could call it.

Or its a team that still plans on competing:

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood

Gutekunst says not fair to Jordan Love right now to say the new first-round pick will be Aaron Rodgers' eventual replacement as #Packers starting QB. "We've got the best quarterback in the National Football League, and we plan to have him for awhile, competing for championships."

[3irty1]

I just want them to hit on ANY first round pick. If it's a QB, all the better.