The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[Bretsky]

I have you ask where you heard this Brandon; I was a big Eliott Wolf guy and I wanted them to hire Hoody Genius JR ...aka...the best OC in the NFL as our head coach. I heard Flower came in with a list of DC's and Petine was at the top

You reference the new coaching needing to bring Petine to get the job and JMAC said no way

Where did you hear this ? It makes sense to me how this went down but i"m curious

[GB-Brandon]

Not only did they not get any of those guys but they took it a step farther and didn’t draft a receiver in the last two entire drafts and haven’t taken one as early as the second round since Devante Adams.

[GB-Brandon]

I have you ask where you heard this Brandon; I was a big Eliott Wolf guy and I wanted them to hire Hoody Genius JR ...aka...the best OC in the NFL as our head coach. I heard Flower came in with a list of DC's and Petine was at the top

You reference the new coaching needing to bring Petine to get the job and JMAC said no way

Where did you hear this ? It makes sense to me how this went down but i"m curious

You hear things in this community. Its possible to run into an old Packer having a few drinks at a bar or hear other noise. I’m not here to spread rumors. I thought it was common knowledge that McDanials wanted the job and a lot of control and it was never gonna work with asshole egomaniac Mark Murphy. One of those main things was the new coach having to retain Mike Pettine. From there if you remember the whole thing with McDanials stalled. LaFluer was looking for his first big coaching opportunity and of course was willing with Pettine so the rest is history. I believe McDaniels more or less ran from the job after realizing the power structure in place.

To me the Packer Power structure has been abused. That’s why i sometimes refer to it as “dysfunctional”. It was like they did this big fake clean up job getting rid of Capers and Thompson and then McCarthy. If you look deeper Murphy is still at the top of the totem pole somehow and really nothing has changed other then Gute spending a few more dollars one year in free agency.

I only talk of this now because of what there doing too AR12. People can think what they want about Aaron but he has been a warrior for this franchise. He does massive outreach in the community for kids stuggling with diseases. Just a lot of things he doesn’t have to do. I think he is overly misunderstood. If i was Rodgers I would be demanding a trade after everything he has done.

So yeah hear we are in 2020 turning into some power running team. We’ll see what happens.

[George Cumby]

To me the Packer Power structure has been abused.

This makes sense.

[sharpe1027]

They seemed to be focused on an improved running game.

Let's assume for a moment the goal wasn't to stick it to Rodgers and give up on next year. If the running game is more reliable in the sense of consistently churning out 3-4 yard chunks in early downs, how much better would the team be?

[Packers4Glory]

I have you ask where you heard this Brandon; I was a big Eliott Wolf guy and I wanted them to hire Hoody Genius JR ...aka...the best OC in the NFL as our head coach. I heard Flower came in with a list of DC's and Petine was at the top

You reference the new coaching needing to bring Petine to get the job and JMAC said no way

Where did you hear this ? It makes sense to me how this went down but i"m curious

That was my dream when Ted was gone and they fired MM. I was definitely more aboard the JMac train than the GM because I really didn't have a feel either way other than I wanted something different than Ted's philosophy of simply draft building. So my preference was Wolf. I would even have preferred Dorsey.

[Packers4Glory]

You hear things in this community. Its possible to run into an old Packer having a few drinks at a bar or hear other noise. I’m not here to spread rumors. I thought it was common knowledge that McDanials wanted the job and a lot of control and it was never gonna work with asshole egomaniac Mark Murphy. One of those main things was the new coach having to retain Mike Pettine. From there if you remember the whole thing with McDanials stalled. LaFluer was looking for his first big coaching opportunity and of course was willing with Pettine so the rest is history. I believe McDaniels more or less ran from the job after realizing the power structure in place.

To me the Packer Power structure has been abused. That’s why i sometimes refer to it as “dysfunctional”. It was like they did this big fake clean up job getting rid of Capers and Thompson and then McCarthy. If you look deeper Murphy is still at the top of the totem pole somehow and really nothing has changed other then Gute spending a few more dollars one year in free agency.

I only talk of this now because of what there doing too AR12. People can think what they want about Aaron but he has been a warrior for this franchise. He does massive outreach in the community for kids stuggling with diseases. Just a lot of things he doesn’t have to do. I think he is overly misunderstood. If i was Rodgers I would be demanding a trade after everything he has done.

So yeah hear we are in 2020 turning into some power running team. We’ll see what happens.

These guys are not going to like Aaron if this thing starts off poorly. I think we'll see some passive little shots as we build up to the season at the braintrust but if the wheels are wobbly 4-6 weeks in, I think it's going to go to a whole new level. He has every right to be pissed.

They've turned him into a game manager because aside from Adams nobody is open, so he just throws the ball away and lives to fight another down. Nobody can get separation. They tried to fix the TE spot with 2 old FA signings and neither worked out. I'm encouraged at what I saw from JS but it's still a giant question and no real solution if that fails. We've had some good luck in 2nd rounds with WR so it made no sense to go try and sign the next Henry at RB. He'd probably have been there in the 3rd anyway. and then the new TE in the 5th or 6th.

Instead of following the speed kills blueprint of KC we're trying to look like the Titans crappy offense when MF was in charge of that. It makes little sense. Aaron can still wing it but damn he needs a little help outside of Adams.

[GB-Brandon]

They seemed to be focused on an improved running game.

Let's assume for a moment the goal wasn't to stick it to Rodgers and give up on next year. If the running game is more reliable in the sense of consistently churning out 3-4 yard chunks in early downs, how much better would the team be?

There making some pretty damn good progress building there scheme. I’m not doubting that at all. Still you look at teams like the Niners and they have multiple weapons in the passing game and always adding(Deebo Samuel 2nd round, Brandon Aiyuk 1st round, Sanders was a trade). Same with the Titans with Aj Brown and Cory Davis (1st and 2nd round picks).

We’re soft here. Maybe they finally address it next year but that might be too late. I think a quick way to salvage the situation is to make a trade for a guy like AJ Green(just using him as an example). You do something like that and you ease Rodgers and give him a clearer 2-3 year window to go after it. They would get the draft pick back used for the trade when they decide to trade Rodgers so they could essentially leverage the Love pick. Doing something like this would put ease on what some believe to be a toxic situation.

This would be amazing and a best case scenario IMO.

I believe Gute can salvage this if he is willing too.

[wist43]

They seemed to be focused on an improved running game.

Let's assume for a moment the goal wasn't to stick it to Rodgers and give up on next year. If the running game is more reliable in the sense of consistently churning out 3-4 yard chunks in early downs, how much better would the team be?

What I think happened is Rodgers went off script far too much for Lefluer's liking; and, combined with his whining, and at times subpar play - that was the result of him wanting to do it his way - resulted in Gute and Lefluer simply deciding to press forward with their plan without any consideration to or for Rodgers.

The result is going to be a divorce - most likely after next season.

I expect the team will regress. They overachieved last year and will come back to the mean. There'll be some angst and finger pointing and I told ya so - and he'll be traded.

If Carr doesn't move the needle this year in Vegas, probably to the Raiders. At least that seems like the most logical place.

[GB-Brandon]

What I think happened is Rodgers went off script far too much for Lefluer's liking; and, combined with his whining, and at times subpar play - that was the result of him wanting to do it his way - resulted in Gute and Lefluer simply deciding to press forward with their plan without any consideration to or for Rodgers.

The result is going to be a divorce - most likely after next season.

I expect the team will regress. They overachieved last year and will come back to the mean. There'll be some angst and finger pointing and I told ya so - and he'll be traded.

If Carr doesn't move the needle this year in Vegas, probably to the Raiders. At least that seems like the most logical place.

Oh yeah. Gruden and Mayock would make that happen in their sleep. Don’t count out the Chargers or Patriots either.

Unfortunately for us I believe the “separation” will happen before the divorce. I think the Packers are in for a big surprise and Gute Fucken deserves every bit of it.

[GB-Brandon]

These guys are not going to like Aaron if this thing starts off poorly. I think we'll see some passive little shots as we build up to the season at the braintrust but if the wheels are wobbly 4-6 weeks in, I think it's going to go to a whole new level. He has every right to be pissed.

They've turned him into a game manager because aside from Adams nobody is open, so he just throws the ball away and lives to fight another down. Nobody can get separation. They tried to fix the TE spot with 2 old FA signings and neither worked out. I'm encouraged at what I saw from JS but it's still a giant question and no real solution if that fails. We've had some good luck in 2nd rounds with WR so it made no sense to go try and sign the next Henry at RB. He'd probably have been there in the 3rd anyway. and then the new TE in the 5th or 6th.

Instead of following the speed kills blueprint of KC we're trying to look like the Titans crappy offense when MF was in charge of that. It makes little sense. Aaron can still wing it but damn he needs a little help outside of Adams.

I know. That’s why they are in love with Love. Think of Marriotta, Tannehill, Goff, Garapalo

That’s what they want.

All these people think it’s sooooooooo cool now. Let’s see in a couple years.

[Packers4Glory]

I know. That’s why they are in love with Love. Think of Marriotta, Tannehill, Goff, Garapalo

That’s what they want.

All these people think it’s sooooooooo cool now. Let’s see in a couple years.

I think Love has a much higher ceiling than those guys. It’s hard to say where the floor is based on 2018/2019 differences. So many factors at work. I think we know he has some learning to do on x’s & o’s so in 3 years he *should be ready if he has any football intelligence & can absorb some of Rodgers decision making processes.

Part of those issues the Titans team has was a lack of playmakers at WR. Just a shitty group for a young QB. You still need playmakers & guys who can separate & get open

[GB-Brandon]

I think Love has a much higher ceiling than those guys. It’s hard to say where the floor is based on 2018/2019 differences. So many factors at work. I think we know he has some learning to do on x’s & o’s so in 3 years he *should be ready if he has any football intelligence & can absorb some of Rodgers decision making processes.

Part of those issues the Titans team has was a lack of playmakers at WR. Just a shitty group for a young QB. You still need playmakers & guys who can separate & get open

I’m not so sure. Either year all I really see that’s special is some arm strength and an ability to whip the ball out in some situations kinda “Mahommes like”. That’s great but I’m not sold on the mental side of this kid hence the 17 picks at a much slower level of play at Utah State. Rodgers and Mahommes see the field in a genius like level. You can’t always teach it as the game just comes so fast and there are many many things to process. This LaFluer offense will help like it did for Tannehill so it’s possible.

To expect him to though to be Rodgers is just crazy. There will be lots of things to watch like how he handles NFL pass rushers, game speed, his ability to be a student of the game etc etc etc.

Only time will tell. I’m luke warm on the prospect and I’m ICE COLD on the timing of it.

People thought Kizer had tons of upside too. In fact Gute “had to have him”

[call_me_ishmael]

It's almost like Gute zagged when the rest of the league zigged. Everyone else saw the Chiefs and is chasing speed and explosiveness at the skill positions. Gute/MLF went the Tenn/SF route instead. The problem is we don't have a defense as stout as either of those teams.

I don't disagree in general but I would like to point out that SF is fast as hell and is trying to increase speed with everybody else. WAY faster than the Packers, as evidence by no one being to catch up with them.

[mraynrand]

What I think happened is Rodgers went off script far too much for Lefluer's liking; and, combined with his whining, and at times subpar play - that was the result of him wanting to do it his way - resulted in Gute and Lefluer simply deciding to press forward with their plan without any consideration to or for Rodgers.

One can only hope.