The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[texaspackerbacker]

We don't NEED Dillon at all. He might be an upgrade from our very adequate #2 RB. Hopefully, Jamal Williams becomes primarily our fullback and Dillon is good enough to rotate with Jones as RB.

[GB-Brandon]

“Power Football” and let Aaron win it at the end. Go get another receiver Gute.

[GB-Brandon]

We don't NEED Dillon at all. He might be an upgrade from our very adequate #2 RB. Hopefully, Jamal Williams becomes primarily our fullback and Dillon is good enough to rotate with Jones as RB.

I disagree. Dillon is gonna be a huge part of this offense. Jones won’t even be re-singed.

[pbmax]

That's really what you think, isn't it?

Its what critics think I think.

I think.

[pbmax]

The problem max is that means we're going to be status quo from last year, and last year we weren't good enough.

Let me hear your argument that says we surpassed SF, NO, and now Dallas, TB, and SEA??

You don't know that those teams are improved.

Packers beat Dallas and Seattle. Beat Vikes twice and they beat NO in NO.

TB who knows what to expect.

San Fran remains a matchup problem.

[wist43]

You don't know that those teams are improved.

Packers beat Dallas and Seattle. Beat Vikes twice and they beat NO in NO.

TB who knows what to expect.

San Fran remains a matchup problem.

So your argument that we've improved is that those other teams might not have improved??

That's your argument??

[GB-Brandon]

I will say Seattle didn’t do much. They have two RB’s coming off big injuries. They brought in a bunch of old foggies and don’t have Clowney re-signed. They have zero pass rush on there roster.

[GB-Brandon]

Dallas has massive problems on defense that they ignored.

[GB-Brandon]

NO has a QB that could fall off at any moment.

[GB-Brandon]

The Niners are the target. Gute needs to get another receiver and hope we can play them tough and let Rodgers win game at the end.

Only Chance. But there are also things called injuries etc etc. so we see.

[pbmax]

So your argument that we've improved is that those other teams might not have improved??

That's your argument??

You are guessing.

We do know the Packers were the better team last year versus all but SF.

[pbmax]

So your argument that we've improved is that those other teams might not have improved??

That's your argument??

Or you can hav Harv's version where the improvement you think you see in the draft is belied by losses to veterans.

49ers and Vikings got players (mostly younger players) to replace the players they lost.

49ers traded for Trent Williams to replace a retiring Joe Staley, drafted Javon Kinlaw to replace a traded DeForest Buckner, drafted Brandon Aiyuk to replace Emmanuel Sanders. They also traded Matt Breida. Is that a roster upgrade for 2020? What else have they done?

The Vikings lost Stefon Diggs, Linval Joseph, Everson Griffin, their top three CBs, and some complementary pieces (Weatherly, OL, Kearse, Sendejo, etc.). I think they had a nice draft, but they have a lot to replace. For this year I don’t think they are better.
Long-term, they are. I don’t know if Cousins is somebody they can trust to win 3-4 games in the playoffs.

Seattle has mostly treaded water, and their draft doesn’t look any better than the Packers draft.

Dallas looks scary, but they always do.

Tampa Bay looks talented, but Brady fell off a lot last year.

Saints and Eagles are tough, but New Orleans hasn’t exactly been a playoff juggernaut. They won the year before we did, and have been massive playoff disappointments since.

49ers are still the team to beat IMHO. There are a lot of good teams in the NFC. This draft seemed to be all about Gutey getting guys the Flower wanted.

I am personally less worried about NO.

[Bossman641]

It's almost like Gute zagged when the rest of the league zigged. Everyone else saw the Chiefs and is chasing speed and explosiveness at the skill positions. Gute/MLF went the Tenn/SF route instead. The problem is we don't have a defense as stout as either of those teams.

[wist43]

It's almost like Gute zagged when the rest of the league zigged. Everyone else saw the Chiefs and is chasing speed and explosiveness at the skill positions. Gute/MLF went the Tenn/SF route instead. The problem is we don't have a defense as stout as either of those teams.

I think it's pretty obvious that Gute and Lefluer want to move on from Rodgers as soon as possible.

To that end, draft his replacement, spit in his face by not giving him what he wanted, i.e better receivers, and pound away in the draft chasing scheme/philosophy changing players.

I actually agree with the power approach, always have. But, and it's a big but, that is not the personnel or QB they inherited - a HOF QB - so, given our QB and his credentials, Lefluer was the wrong hire since he and Gute were determined to force change.

It was always destined to end like this - I see it now that we're here, but I didn't see it coming to tell you the truth. I thought Gute and Lefluer would try to maximize Rodgers while he was here - I was wrong.

[GB-Brandon]

I didn’t sleep Thursday Night or Friday Night. The whole thing was rather traumatic. Part of the reason I moved back here and bought a home near Lambeau Field was because of the New GM(Gute) and believed it was the “Green Light” to get Rodgers finally what he needed. It’s basically been three drafts and offseason of the opposite. It’s so crazy that yes you start to think sabotage. I have sat here from my couch and watched film and studied weapons every offseason and was able to pin point guys that the Packers passed on. The list of some of them includes mainly down below. These are guys that i thought should of been targeted and coveted prior to the draft.

Joe Mixon
Courtland Sutton
Calvin Ridley
Parris Campbell
Deebo Samuel
AJ Brown
DK Metcalf
Brandon Aiyuk
Jalen Reagor
Denzel Mimms
Tee Higgins

Now a few of these guys would of required moving around the board but the point is the Packers moved around the board for players such as Jordan Love and Darnell Savage under Gute. They moved up for Spriggs under Thompson so they can do it.

The fact is Gute and his team are professional scouts so they had to see the value in some of these guys. If they didn’t then I question there credentials. To never draft one or maneuver to get one has to make you wonder what the underlying motivation is/was.

I still love being in Green Bay during football season and head south after the season but this has been a real bummer with this Rodgers thing.

It’s like what could of been.