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  • #61


    I’d be more focused about getting open and catching the ball and making the team Marquez!!!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
      https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0OyvF...=02g6SRym&s=i0

      I’d be more focused about getting open and catching the ball and making the team Marquez!!!
      Because it's impossible to express support for his QB AND focus on improving his own performance?
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Because it's impossible to express support for his QB AND focus on improving his own performance?
        Chirp Chirp.

        A couple times now. Reminds me of Jarret Boykin. I don’t consider MVS to be anything more then a reserve sticking around for a couple years on a real NFL receiving Corp roster.

        It’s really too bad that this is the best we can do. I never thought it could get this bad.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
          Chirp Chirp.

          A couple times now. Reminds me of Jarret Boykin. I don’t consider MVS to be anything more then a reserve sticking around for a couple years on a real NFL receiving Corp roster.

          It’s really too bad that this is the best we can do. I never thought it could get this bad.
          He has skills that Boykin could only dream about, but he has some deficits (catching the ball, competing for the ball) that aren't easily overcome.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
            Chirp Chirp.

            A couple times now. Reminds me of Jarret Boykin. I don’t consider MVS to be anything more then a reserve sticking around for a couple years on a real NFL receiving Corp roster.

            It’s really too bad that this is the best we can do. I never thought it could get this bad.
            I still believe that the 2nd year slump that MVS encountered had a lot to do with injury. It mirrors James Jones 2nd year so much its spooky. He worked out hard last offseason and had an incredible camp. This year is huge for him.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              I still believe that the 2nd year slump that MVS encountered had a lot to do with injury. It mirrors James Jones 2nd year so much its spooky. He worked out hard last offseason and had an incredible camp. This year is huge for him.
              I'm sure there are still some good "Davante Adams should be cut" posts out here from after his 2nd season.
              MVS is a raw prospect, this is the year he has to show progress. Might have been injuries, but he had lost the faith of the coaches somewhere after mid-season.

              This was an interesting story about the throwing to MOF vs. sidelines: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/b...selection-2019

              Maybe the WRs should try running routes in the MOF? Maybe replacing Graham will help?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                I still believe that the 2nd year slump that MVS encountered had a lot to do with injury. It mirrors James Jones 2nd year so much its spooky. He worked out hard last offseason and had an incredible camp. This year is huge for him.
                Huge if true. He had some nice moments early in the year.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  This was an interesting story about the throwing to MOF vs. sidelines: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/b...selection-2019
                  The article brings up something that I've commented on a few times in the past, as well as other posters.
                  My feeling has always been that he avoids the middle of the field because of the possibility of tipped balls and interceptions.

                  It's a high percentage throw, but can be a dangerous throw.

                  I noticed that SF avoids the sideline like GB avoids the middle of the field. Kind of interesting.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    I'm sure there are still some good "Davante Adams should be cut" posts out here from after his 2nd season.
                    MVS is a raw prospect, this is the year he has to show progress. Might have been injuries, but he had lost the faith of the coaches somewhere after mid-season.

                    This was an interesting story about the throwing to MOF vs. sidelines: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/b...selection-2019

                    Maybe the WRs should try running routes in the MOF? Maybe replacing Graham will help?
                    Last pre season I saw Boyle bust the seam up the middle to Tonyan a few times. I commented that if I didn't see the play again that it was no longer fat mikes fault, but on ARod since we now know its in the playbook....anyone remember Tonyan or anyone splitting that seam open for a 20 yarder??
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                      Last pre season I saw Boyle bust the seam up the middle to Tonyan a few times. I commented that if I didn't see the play again that it was no longer fat mikes fault, but on ARod since we now know its in the playbook....anyone remember Tonyan or anyone splitting that seam open for a 20 yarder??
                      What is this? Janis logic?

                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                        I'm sure there are still some good "Davante Adams should be cut" posts out here from after his 2nd season.
                        MVS is a raw prospect, this is the year he has to show progress. Might have been injuries, but he had lost the faith of the coaches somewhere after mid-season.

                        This was an interesting story about the throwing to MOF vs. sidelines: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/b...selection-2019

                        Maybe the WRs should try running routes in the MOF? Maybe replacing Graham will help?
                        I’m sure we can even find more posts of using this analogy on several others that didn’t improve. Not gonna take the time to list them all. Adams was a different story then them all. He was a 2nd round pick and much higher graded player coming out of Fresno State. He also showed and flashed as a rookie which proved he was worth the pick. He Had huge games his rookie season in big wins vs New England and Dallas in the playoffs. He had Aaron Rodgers gushing about him during his rookie camp comparing him to “Greg Jennings Talent”.

                        His second year he had a pretty severe ankle injury that he tried to play through and couldn’t plant which his whole game revolves around if you watch his route running. It made it so he couldn’t beat “press coverage”. His confidence went down and he caught a case of the dropsies. He got healthy and never looked back. Too me comparing Scantling to Adams is like comparing a Malibu to a Mercedes. MVS was drafted in the 5th round for a reason. He is a slightly better version of Trevor Davis which is basically some straight line speed and not much else. HE WILL NEVER be able to win in short spaces or areas and isn’t a great natural catcher of the football. THIS IS A PIPE-DREAM!!

                        For this to be our big Hope is just bullshit. It’s very undermining and reckless of Gute to say the least.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                          I still believe that the 2nd year slump that MVS encountered had a lot to do with injury. It mirrors James Jones 2nd year so much its spooky. He worked out hard last offseason and had an incredible camp. This year is huge for him.
                          It'll be interesting to see if he can bounce back. It's easy to forget he had 400+ receiving yards through 7 games. He had 30 the rest of the season.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #73
                            He isn’t fluid and can’t glide. He has almost zero explosion. Tight in the hips too.

                            One trick pony with not much to work with. Maybe a no.4 at best. You can’t form consistency with this.

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                            • #74
                              I have little hope for MVS. Bad hands, bad ball skills. ESB, on the other hand, is my hope.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                I’m sure we can even find more posts of using this analogy on several others that didn’t improve. Not gonna take the time to list them all. Adams was a different story then them all. He was a 2nd round pick and much higher graded player coming out of Fresno State. He also showed and flashed as a rookie which proved he was worth the pick. He Had huge games his rookie season in big wins vs New England and Dallas in the playoffs. He had Aaron Rodgers gushing about him during his rookie camp comparing him to “Greg Jennings Talent”.

                                His second year he had a pretty severe ankle injury that he tried to play through and couldn’t plant which his whole game revolves around if you watch his route running. It made it so he couldn’t beat “press coverage”. His confidence went down and he caught a case of the dropsies. He got healthy and never looked back. Too me comparing Scantling to Adams is like comparing a Malibu to a Mercedes. MVS was drafted in the 5th round for a reason. He is a slightly better version of Trevor Davis which is basically some straight line speed and not much else. HE WILL NEVER be able to win in short spaces or areas and isn’t a great natural catcher of the football. THIS IS A PIPE-DREAM!!

                                For this to be our big Hope is just bullshit. It’s very undermining and reckless of Gute to say the least.
                                Good post except the last part. Did Gute actually ever say MVS was his big hope?
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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