2020 Wide Receivers

[RashanGary]

The top 16 WR reception leaders from 2019

Michael Thomas 4.58 40
DeAndre Hopkins 4.57 40
Keenan Allen 4.71 40 *knee injury*
Julian Edelman 4.52 40
Julio Jones 4.34 40
Allen Robinson 4.60 40
Cooper kupp 4.62 40
Robert Woods 4.51 40
Tyler Boyd 4.58 40
DJ Moore 4.42 40
Chris Godwin 4.42 40
Jarvis Landry 4.58 40
Davante Adams 4.56 40
Tyler Locket 4.40 40
Amari Cooper 4.42 40
Jamison Crowder 4.56 40

31% ran under a 4.5s 40
81% ran under a 4.6 40

Then there is a 4.60 and a 4.62. Keenan Allen ran a 4.71 but there was a knee injury that affected that.



Allen Lazards 4.54 40 yard dash is right about where last year's reception leaders timed. He's fast enough to be fast enough. He showed grit, ball skills, contested catch skills and AR says dude just gets it.

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a 1,000 yard season. There is nothing about his game or athletic profile that suggests he can't do it.

[RashanGary]

From his first catch, Lazards last 10 games of 2019

4 65
3 42
5 42
3 44
3 27
1 7
3 103
2 19
2 14
5 45
4 69

477 yards over 10 games. That would be 750 over 16 games. And I think he's better than last year's virsion of himself. Easy to envision 1000 yard season actually. He was consistent once he got his chance and will be better.

[GB-Brandon]

People did all these fancy stats to show basically the same thing with Allison last year and how he projected so well this last season. I can appreciate your optimism but I’m kind of in the same boat with Bretsky. It’s a bunch of 4’s. The days of me counting on significant jumps and improvement in regards too the Packers receivers are long gone because it’s been nothing but a let down all the way back to Donald Driver. This position group should of been upgraded 2-3 years ago and yet we’re still sitting here in 2020 singing the same damn tune. If anything is a broken record player it is the yearly Rah Rah talk about how all these project receivers are gonna finally develop and be stars.

And I really can’t get upset at MVS, EQ, Lazard and Kummerow. There a collection of day 3 picks and UDFA’s. There was a REASON FOR THEM TO FALL. That’s not to say you can’t “get lucky” every once and while but too build a receiving Corp on this is just unacceptable all things considered. Its all about probabilities and while there is nothing wrong with “hoping” the probabilities don’t equal out. Then you throw in the potential normal injury bug and it’s a dire situation.

You wanna he considered a Serious Super Bowl Contender then the Packers need too buck the fuck up and get Rodgers the weapons he needs and deserves. Tired of K-Mart shit.

[Joemailman]

Lazard's 4.55 40 time was when he weighed 227 pounds. He's 215 now and is probably a little faster than he was then.

There are solid reasons why he should be able to get in the 700-800 yard range:

1. Rodgers trusts him. With good reason. Lazard's catch % of 67 was the best among Packers WR's.

2. He'll get more snaps. Lazard was 2nd on the Packers in receiving yards despite being 4th among WR's in snap counts. He could get at least 200 more snaps than last year.

3. He's a known quantity to the coaching staff. He'll be a big part of their offseason offensive planning. MLF probably barely knew who he was this time last year.

4. He took advantage when his snaps increased last year. He didn't shy away from a bigger role.

[RashanGary]

Brandon, Allison ran a 4.67 and fell outside the fast enough to be fast enough threshold

Lazards speed (in a different class than Allison) is just one of the reasons to think he might be a big contributor in 2020

[GB-Brandon]

I’m sure Lazard is gonna be given a chance this year as there really isn’t any other option other then possibly Funches revitalizing his career. I don’t believe Lazard will be able to shoulder the load all by himself as an every down no.2 receiver. He’s a great kid and great story. I expect the Packers to rotate all of these guys in from time to time and going with the hot hand kinda like they did last year with limited success. It will be amazing when they play teams like the Giants and Raiders but will struggle vs the better teams which we have more of this year.

The unit as a whole outside of Adams is lacking top-end talent along with short area quickness and speed along with potentially not being able too hold up against injury.

[GB-Brandon]

Brandon, Allison ran a 4.67 and fell outside the fast enough to be fast enough threshold

Lazards speed (in a different class than Allison) is just one of the reasons to think he might be a big contributor in 2020

I was well aware of Allison’s top end speed. My original post was geared towards the fact that last off-season I heard a lot people projecting Allison’s numbers based on him not getting hurt in 2018 which didn’t come true in 2019.

Once again I expect some good WR play here and there outside of Adams in 2020 but I do not feel the Packers have the correct cocktail of players they need at the receiver position for the offense to hit full potential.

[Zool]

Well since you brought up Driver, a 7th round pick, he had just about 500 yards combined in his first 3 years. He had a tough time getting past Corey Bradford and Bill Schroeder to get playing time.

You really just never know if/when the light will go on.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...D/DrivDo00.htm

[bobblehead]

I was well aware of Allison’s top end speed. My original post was geared towards the fact that last off-season I heard a lot people projecting Allison’s numbers based on him not getting hurt in 2018 which didn’t come true in 2019.

Once again I expect some good WR play here and there outside of Adams in 2020 but I do not feel the Packers have the correct cocktail of players they need at the receiver position for the offense to hit full potential.

The catch is that flowers vision of an offense isn't the same as yours. Funchess and lazard fit his mold of big strong wr who can block.

[GB-Brandon]

Well since you brought up Driver, a 7th round pick, he had just about 500 yards combined in his first 3 years. He had a tough time getting past Corey Bradford and Bill Schroeder to get playing time.

You really just never know if/when the light will go on.

https://www.pro-football-
reference.com/players/D/DrivDo00.htm

That’s all well and good but for a lot of us we would of liked to see more added to the pot then the main plan being an UDFA that lacks adequate change of direction or short area quickness or bend in hip movement. I also wouldn’t call him to have Elite Speed. He is basically DK Metcalf without the elite speed(4.3) or strength which is a huge difference. I guess you could call him a poor mans DK Metcalf. That’s this guys ceiling.

Also, for every Driver there is 15-20 that didn’t make the jump so once again we’re back too probabilities and giving the team the best possible chance to be successful which clearly was not done here.

[Massive J]

Antonio Brown is a psycho and a team cancer

I agree. This is why he doesn't belong.

[Zool]

That’s all well and good but for a lot of us we would of liked to see more added to the pot then the main plan being an UDFA that lacks adequate change of direction or short area quickness or bend in hip movement. I also wouldn’t call him to have Elite Speed. He is basically DK Metcalf without the elite speed(4.3) or strength which is a huge difference. I guess you could call him a poor mans DK Metcalf. That’s this guys ceiling.

Also, for every Driver there is 15-20 that didn’t make the jump so once again we’re back too probabilities and giving the team the best possible chance to be successful which clearly was not done here.

I’m not disagreeing that more WR help would be amazing. That’s why I hate the draft though. For every Donald Driver in the 7th, there’s a Troy Williamson in the first. For every James Jones, there’s a Darius HeywardBey in the first. Marques Colston was a 7th rounder, and Roy Williams was a 1st.

[QBME]

That’s all well and good but for a lot of us we would of liked to see more added to the pot then the main plan being an UDFA that lacks adequate change of direction or short area quickness or bend in hip movement. I also wouldn’t call him to have Elite Speed. He is basically DK Metcalf without the elite speed(4.3) or strength which is a huge difference. I guess you could call him a poor mans DK Metcalf. That’s this guys ceiling.

Also, for every Driver there is 15-20 that didn’t make the jump so once again we’re back too probabilities and giving the team the best possible chance to be successful which clearly was not done here.

Who exactly are "us"?

To, not "too"

Sorry, fact checking and grammar Sheriff on patrol.

[QBME]

And BTW, Aaron Rodgers is going to make the Lizard a Pro Bowler.
You heard it here first.

[GB-Brandon]

The catch is that flowers vision of an offense isn't the same as yours. Funchess and lazard fit his mold of big strong wr who can block.

We’ll see if it works. Every Shanahan Offense I’ve seen that was at top gear had/has multiple WR’s that could get it done in different ways then then what the Packers have.