2020 Wide Receivers

[GB-Brandon]

We don't. We have to take your word for it since you only tell us how smart you are but weren't actually here posting. Also the teams you seem to love have one thing in common....an elite TE. They don't actually have good WRs. That is more my think to be honest. Having guys like Kittles who block and catch. Its also the type of WR Flower seems to like. You don't even seem to understand the only thing you are kinda right about.

Once again, it’s gotta come from somewhere. They drafted a TE in the 3rd round last year to hopefully address this.

Don’t get upset with me. I didn’t build this mess. Of course I’m not right about every single thing but I think you will find I’m right a lot more then I’m wrong. If you can’t handle my posts then don’t read them.

[GB-Brandon]

I believe the Packers current TE’s would be sufficient and successful with a legitimate no.2 receiver.

[pbmax]

An argument for having receivers your QB likes.

[RashanGary]

Brandon, most of this forum is between 40 and 60 years old I think. I'm on the young side at 39. Im guessing you're about that age too based on the way you communicate and the history you draw on.

Haven't we seen enough guys develop in their 2nd and 3rd years to have some optimism for a guy like Lazard, who showed quite a bit in his first opportunity???

[pbmax]

                                                                                                             
                               Game Game Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece   Rece  Rece  Tota  Tota          Tota
No.                     Player    G   GS  Tgt  Rec  Yds  Y/R   TD  Lng  Ctch% Y/Tgt Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb
17              Davante Adams*   12   12  127   83  997 12.0    5   58  65.4%   7.9    83  12.0  997    5   2
13                Allen Lazard   16    3   52   35  477 13.6    3   43  67.3%   9.2    36  13.8  498    3   0
83    Marquez Valdes-Scantling   16   10   56   26  452 17.4    2   74  46.4%   8.1    28  16.5  461    2   0
81            Geronimo Allison   16    6   55   34  287  8.4    2   31  61.8%   5.2    35   8.4  294    2   2
16                Jake Kumerow   14    4   21   12  219 18.3    1   49  57.1%  10.4    12  18.3  219    1   0
11                Trevor Davis    2    0    1    1   28 28.0    0   28 100.0%  28.0     1  28.0   28    0   0
10            Darrius Shepherd    6    0    2    1    1  1.0    0    1  50.0%   0.5     1   1.0    1    0   1
                    Team Total        16  542  356 4017 11.3   26   74        65.7%   767   7.6 5812   44  15
                     Opp Total             16  326 3721 11.4                                 19 5642   34  19

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/20/2020.

[GB-Brandon]

Brandon, most of this forum is between 40 and 60 years old I think. I'm on the young side at 39. Im guessing you're about that age too based on the way you communicate and the history you draw on.

Haven't we seen enough guys develop in their 2nd and 3rd years to have some optimism for a guy like Lazard, who showed quite a bit in his first opportunity???

Yes on Lazard and No on that being the only real solution with so much at stake.

[pbmax]

                                                                                                     
                        Game Game Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece  Rece  Rece  Tota  Tota          Tota
No.              Player    G   GS  Tgt  Rec  Yds  Y/R   TD  Lng Ctch% Y/Tgt Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb
10         Tyreek Hill*   12   12   89   58  860 14.8    7   57 65.2%   9.7    66  13.4  883    7   0
14        Sammy Watkins   14   13   90   52  673 12.9    3   68 57.8%   7.5    54  12.7  685    3   2
17      Mecole Hardman*   16    5   41   26  538 20.7    6   83 63.4%  13.1    30  18.5  555    6   2
11    Demarcus Robinson   16   10   55   32  449 14.0    4   44 58.2%   8.2    32  14.0  449    4   0
13        Byron Pringle   16    0   16   12  170 14.2    1   28 75.0%  10.6    12  14.2  170    1   0
             Team Total        16  558  378 4690 12.4   30   83       67.7%   753   8.3 6259   46  20
              Opp Total             16  352 3543 10.1                                21 5594   35  20

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/20/2020.

[pbmax]

Your position on Kelce makes a determination harder.

If Kelce counts as a WR or you just want receiving threats, then KC is better top to bottom.

You could argue that Adams trumps Kelce, but the depth on GB is bad. If Lazard continues to play well for a full year, or Scantron regains form or ESB breaks through, then it might be a closer call. I saw the KC depth make some big plays for them.

[RashanGary]

Yes on Lazard and No on that being the only real solution with so much at stake.

Ima gambler. I win some. Lose some. Over time, I win. Like sports bets, this a gamble. I see that and agree. Now we find out if Gute wins more bets than he loses, optimally better than anyone else. Probably, someone's better. But this is gute shooting his shot.

I'm sure every team would like to just be the best at everything and have no Gamble's at all, just sure things to win every year. Not so sure that's realistic.

[GB-Brandon]

Ima gambler. I win some. Lose some. Over time, I win. Like sports bets, this a gamble. I see that and agree. Now we find out if Gute wins more bets than he loses, optimally better than anyone else. Probably, someone's better. But this is gute shooting his shot.

I'm sure every team would like to just be the best at everything and have no Gamble's at all, just sure things to win every year. Not so sure that's realistic.

Yeah, drafting a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round over the last few years is just ”Sooooo UNREALISTIC” Give me a break.

I would just hate to give up some of these guys that were drafted instead. This is beyond “gambling.” This is just flat out reckless and stubborn mixed with too much Ego and it’s gonna cost us dearly.

[GB-Brandon]

Your position on Kelce makes a determination harder.

If Kelce counts as a WR or you just want receiving threats, then KC is better top to bottom.

You could argue that Adams trumps Kelce, but the depth on GB is bad. If Lazard continues to play well for a full year, or Scantron regains form or ESB breaks through, then it might be a closer call. I saw the KC depth make some big plays for them.

Spot on. They had Kelce yes but they also had multiple guys that can win one on one and that’s why they were so explosive. Nobody even brought up Demarcus Robinson. He would be a #2 on the Packers hands down.

[Bretsky]

Yeah, drafting a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round over the last few years is just ”Sooooo UNREALISTIC” Give me a break.

I would just hate to give up some of these guys that were drafted instead. This is beyond “gambling.” This is just flat out reckless and stubborn mixed with too much Ego and it’s gonna cost us dearly.

Over the studs we've brought in ? We talkin Bacon and JoshyJackson or the Lovemachine ?

[GB-Brandon]

Over the studs we've brought in ? We talkin Bacon and JoshyJackson or the Lovemachine ?

Don't forget about the BIG TRADE UP for Oren Burks in the 3rd round either. Unless Love turns out to be some big deal its a disaster of "Asset Allocation" which is a blade that cuts both ways. It has potentially stunted our growth for a 'RUN RIGHT NOW" and it will also set up a disaster for the near future if it fails. That's the very scary part of the whole thing.

Josh Jackson is already "Maxed Out". I am also getting tired of RG continuing to bring up work out videos about Rashan Gary. It's like BFD!!!l We know the dude can work out. That's why Gute drafted him. Were certainly not sure he knows how to play football effectively. I mean the guy couldn't even get on the field in a playoff game where we really needed him. Huge Early Fail.

[RashanGary]

Huge early fails from the Packers current roster:

Aaron Rodgers
Aaron Jones
Jace Sternberger
Davante Adams
Zadarius Smith
Kenny Clark
Kevin King

A whole bunch of guys are just ok or bad as rookies. It's really common for guys to develop from average or below average NFL players in their rookie years, into probowl players.

[GB-Brandon]

Huge early fails from the Packers current roster:

Aaron Rodgers
Aaron Jones
Jace Sternberger
Davante Adams
Zadarius Smith
Kenny Clark
Kevin King

A whole bunch of guys are just ok or bad as rookies. It's really common for guys to develop from average or below average NFL players in their rookie years, into probowl players.

I don't have time to respond to that and its completely flawed.

Here is the deal. Gute better hope all these 60-1 long-shot ponies he has been "Betting On" come to some type of positive fruition or he is gonna get ran the hell out. Just about every star on the roster that has "Been Drafted" are Thompson leftovers that Gute is actually trying to push out the door and replace with 'His Guys".

Were gonna find out very soon "What We Actually Have." Let me remind you that the NFL stands for "Not For Long." You simply don't have 3-4 years to develop first round picks let alone the 12th pick in the draft. That shit just isn't gonna work anymore with Rodgers taking a step back. You don't have his "All Time Elite QB Play" to save the fucken day anymore. We had a chance. A crack in the door so to speak and Gute totally turned his back on it to institute his long term agenda that I don't believe will be all that long.

It will be interesting to watch play out. That's for sure.