Why the Packers are better than last year: D edition

[GB-Brandon]

Matt Ryan threw the ball 39 times then the Falcons beat them.

Russell Wilson threw the ball 34 times when the Seahawks beat them.

[GB-Brandon]

See the Niners aren’t like the Packers. The Niners can stop the run “if they want too”. The Packers CAN’T. That’s the difference and if people think adding Kirksey is gonna make this run defense have a night and day difference then need there head examined.

[RashanGary]

Okay but Mahommes threw the ball 42 times. They mixed in some run but they beat the niners and coming back “Throwing the Ball”

It’s sure and the hell wasn’t by some big power run game.

It's interesting how the two teams in the SB like to use TEs and backs though.

Conventional thought is it helps get matchups and keep defenses focused on both the run and pass so they can't commit to stopping one over the other.

Offensive balance creates defensive imbalance is the theory. Chiefs seem to subscribe.

I'm not opposed to other methods when the personnel fits something better, but the run/pass concept is a pretty solid one. Becoming more of a trend since the huge QB years a few years back.

[GB-Brandon]

The only chance in hell this team has to beat the Niners is throw the ball actually and get the lead. Force a turnover and then get Garapalo throwing 34-40 times.

That’s are big chance. We’re not gonna line up against the Niners and beat them at smash mouth and field position with this Mickey Mouse Defense.

[GB-Brandon]

Gute and LaFluer and Pettine are fucking up the “Winning Formula.”

[GB-Brandon]

Go fix giving up 186 yards rushing before contact before anyone even makes a peep about beating the Niners.

[GB-Brandon]

See, the Philosophy being pushed here is a sham. We can’t match up against the Niners the way they want us too. They’re just bigger, faster, meaner and better. We’re overmatched. Adding a power back an H-Back doesn’t even nearly close the gap.

However, Rodgers is > then Garapalo. We need to get the game to match up that way and if we can or could the chances start to play in our favor. Once again Gute didn’t make the required moves for this to happen or even give us a fighting chance.

This is just another example of many how the Packers have failed to put adequate talent around their most talented player. Why can’t this organization embrace “who we are” and make it work? It really isn’t rocket science. The frustration meter with many fans is about to blow through the roof when this sham their pushing fails cause the Way With Rodgers will have expired.

[texaspackerbacker]

Brandon, I agree with you on a couple of points. A team with a mobile QB like Mahomes or Wilson - or Rodgers - can use 4 WRs for a lot of plays against the Niners. In addition to the passing, it spreads the D and opens up running room - maybe. Also, I agree, Kirksey alone isn't gonna make the Packers an effective run stopping team. He's pretty much a wash with Martinez. The problem lies with the D Line - everybody last year not named Clark. Some people are hopeful about Keke. I have more hope for the UDFA Gerald Willis. We certainly need somebody to step up there.

The Niners were not unbeatable last season, and they may be slightly less good this year. We just had the misfortune to catch them playing at the top of their game. Atlanta, for example, and maybe some others did not.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Matt Ryan threw the ball 39 times then the Falcons beat them.

Russell Wilson threw the ball 34 times when the Seahawks beat them.

Matt Ryan plays for Atlanta. I said Arizona. A bad Arizona team kept the game close by having a 50/50 run/pass split.

The Seattle game was an OT game, so more plays. They threw the ball 34 times and ran the ball 34 times.

[pbmax]

Under Thompson and Wolf they won 2 in 25 years. How many did Marino win in Miami?

Zero. As important, are the company you keep.

NWE	6
DEN	3
DAL	3
BAL	2
NYG	2
GNB	2
PIT	2
KAN	1
PHI	1
SEA	1
NOR	1
IND	1
TAM	1
STL	1
SFO	1

[pbmax]

If they stop turning the ball over in the first half, beating the 49ers is eminently doable.

[pbmax]

Matt Ryan plays for Atlanta. I said Arizona. A bad Arizona team kept the game close by having a 50/50 run/pass split.

The Seattle game was an OT game, so more plays. They threw the ball 34 times and ran the ball 34 times.

Falcons are legit data point. I did not see the game but they had 290 yards of offense and SF had 2 TOs. Most of their offense was passing (2:1 yards). I suspect the TOs helped a great deal.

[RashanGary]

Falcons are legit data point. I did not see the game but they had 290 yards of offense and SF had 2 TOs. Most of their offense was passing (2:1 yards). I suspect the TOs helped a great deal.

Almost every game has more passing yards. The principle of balance applies because the defense is unsure what play will be used by the offense, hence slowing their aggression toward any one or the other.

[GB-Brandon]

Brandon, I agree with you on a couple of points. A team with a mobile QB like Mahomes or Wilson - or Rodgers - can use 4 WRs for a lot of plays against the Niners. In addition to the passing, it spreads the D and opens up running room - maybe. Also, I agree, Kirksey alone isn't gonna make the Packers an effective run stopping team. He's pretty much a wash with Martinez. The problem lies with the D Line - everybody last year not named Clark. Some people are hopeful about Keke. I have more hope for the UDFA Gerald Willis. We certainly need somebody to step up there.

The Niners were not unbeatable last season, and they may be slightly less good this year. We just had the misfortune to catch them playing at the top of their game. Atlanta, for example, and maybe some others did not.

Then go get Jadaveon Clowney on a 1 year deal and close the gap more. At least then I could buy into this whole theory that we’re gonna beat the Niners at their own game.

[pbmax]

Almost every game has more passing yards. The principle of balance applies because the defense is unsure what play will be used by the offense, hence slowing their aggression toward any one or the other.

Look at the other SF losses. Its not 2:1 passing to rush yards. Both Seattle (to its detriment at times last year) and Arizona ran like their very lives depended on it.