Rodgers 2020 MVP campaign!

[Jaire]

Rodgers >> Brady

Rodgers had the worst defenses of any HoF QB, worse than Marino. Favre had 8 top ten D's; Rodgers just 2, one of which allowed 51 points in the shootout in the desert. The rankings don't lie. I only just realized how much better ARod is than any QB of the last 30 years at least.

Brady had the best Defenses of any QB over the last 20 years and the best coach by far of the last 2 decades.

Brady maxed the gifts he has but he was very lucky. Just see his first 3 Super bowls. Watch the Bucs go 8-8. It was BB, not Brady. As to the digs on Arod, that's how Mac trained him tbh. MLF deserves much credit for turning Rodgers career back on track. I agree Rodgers now is better than Brady ever was.

BB is consistent greatness. Brady road that gravy train.

[texaspackerbacker]

Rodgers now over Brady ever.

Absodamnlutely!

[MadtownPacker]

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[RashanGary]

Rodgers >> Brady

Rodgers had the worst defenses of any HoF QB, worse than Marino. Favre had 8 top ten D's; Rodgers just 2, one of which allowed 51 points in the shootout in the desert. The rankings don't lie. I only just realized how much better ARod is than any QB of the last 30 years at least.

Brady had the best Defenses of any QB over the last 20 years and the best coach by far of the last 2 decades.

Brady maxed the gifts he has but he was very lucky. Just see his first 3 Super bowls. Watch the Bucs go 8-8. It was BB, not Brady. As to the digs on Arod, that's how Mac trained him tbh. MLF deserves much credit for turning Rodgers career back on track. I agree Rodgers now is better than Brady ever was.

BB is consistent greatness. Brady road that gravy train.

In some ways, yes. Brady had better teams. I wouldn’t say he rode the gravy train tho. Brady is the most patient assassin I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen him go whole games without throwing the ball down field and then the one play where it’s there, he makes it. Rodgers forced things for a lot of years.

Last year was the best I’ve ever seen Rodgers play, mentally. I’m not surprised in the least it’s turned into this as his guys developed around him and he grew in the system.

Rodgers now over Brady ever. Rodgers now over any QB I’ve seen.

[Jaire]

Sorry about the repeat posts.

Brady honed his skills and strengths to perfection. But BB had a lot to do with that and with giving him every opportunity to succeed. I would put Brady over Manning but not Rodgers who in hind sight was given the Marino hand. Just compare Favre's defenses 1993 to 1998. Some of that is the devastating injuries to the secondary from 2011 to 2016.

The Bucs are pretty loaded right now. The truth is Arod only had the opportunity in 2010 and 2014. I'm not sure Pettine is going to give him that opportunity.

As far as Rodgers playing his best now. He did that in 2009 through 2011 also. I don't think Rodgers could have done much different since Mac's system was figured out in 2011. Not much Rodgers could do but play perfect ball which he frequently did even in 2018 and 2019 at times. The difference now is that the game no longer rests entirely on him and he's made the adjustments he needed.

"Rodgers now over Brady ever. Rodgers now over any QB I’ve seen." Agreed. And MLF deserves some credit in properly motivating the changes Rodgers needed to make. AFIK MLF just told AR to look at his 2010 play. Rodgers is self motivated. Not sure many coaches would have handled that right.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers >> Brady

Rodgers had the worst defenses of any HoF QB, worse than Marino. Favre had 8 top ten D's; Rodgers just 2, one of which allowed 51 points in the shootout in the desert. The rankings don't lie. I only just realized how much better ARod is than any QB of the last 30 years at least.

Brady had the best Defenses of any QB over the last 20 years and the best coach by far of the last 2 decades.

Brady maxed the gifts he has but he was very lucky. Just see his first 3 Super bowls. Watch the Bucs go 8-8. It was BB, not Brady. As to the digs on Arod, that's how Mac trained him tbh. MLF deserves much credit for turning Rodgers career back on track. I agree Rodgers now is better than Brady ever was.

BB is consistent greatness. Brady road that gravy train.

Rankings can lie. Rodgers is great and its a tough comparison. Brady's greatest strength happens to also be Rodgers greatest weakness. The willingness to take the ball out of his own hands and audible to a run when the D is handing it to him.

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[RashanGary]

Brady's greatest strength happens to also be Rodgers greatest weakness. The willingness to take the ball out of his own hands and audible to a run when the D is handing it to him.

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That and taking short dump offs. Rodgers would literally line up and attack half the field on almost every play. 70% pass. Occasional short outs to WRs and then the rest intermediate to deep.

Brady, consistently, has understood and committed to the run game as part of his play selection attack. He’s consistently pressured the short middle, flats and RB option routes. He also consistently attacks the intermediate and deep parts of the field. For years he’s taken what is given and attacked the whole field.

That’s why I said AR played the best football of his career last year. Outside of rarely throwing over the middle, he attacked, consistently as it was available, all parts of the field. A complete 180 from his narrow and predictable attack style.

[smuggler]

Good question as that's boiling it down to the lowest level. All things equal (same coach, same players outside of QB), who would you take Rodgers or Brady.

This is a classic case of an embarrassment of wealth. I don't know the name of the trope, but there's no worries if you're rolling with Ice Man or Maverick. You're good.

[bobblehead]

Rankings can lie. Rodgers is great and its a tough comparison. Brady's greatest strength happens to also be Rodgers greatest weakness. The willingness to take the ball out of his own hands and audible to a run when the D is handing it to him.

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And just so I don't get accused of criticizing Rodgers (a mortal sin to some) he does something Brady would never do. How many 4th and 3 (or 5 or 7) have we seen Rodgers take the top off the defense for a 50+ yard TD with game on the line. He is the only QB I have ever seen who is confident enough to throw deep in those settings instead of settling for a first down where failure means game is over.

[smuggler]

If I know my team and coach are good, I guess I can see the argument for choosing Brady.

If I don't know how good the team and coach are going to be, I'll take Rodgers and hope he can pull some witchcraft.

[RashanGary]

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Has hardly had his two biggest weapons healthy together and putting up MVP type pace with a hand tied behind his back with the Jones/adams injuries. Packers get healthy, plus a fairly favorable schedule, and he could be making a strong push. Would be cool of he keeps pace with Mahommes and Wilson and then has a couple big ones at the end to leave that final memory in the minds of the voters and take home his 3rd MVP

[run pMc]

I think he's a strong candidate.
I also think the schedule has a few favorable games ahead (JAX, PHI, CAR) but I wouldn't call it easy sledding with CHI twice, DET (who are unpredictable), TEN, and IND.
Even PHI or CAR could cause them trouble, depending on who is healthy for each team. GB could go 4-4 down the stretch, and they'll need to do much better than that for him to be MVP.

Something tells me it goes to Wilson this year.

[texaspackerbacker]

Rodgers as a matter of fact is the most valuable/greatest. However, with regard to winning the award, the team of whoever will rule the day - Wilson, Mahomes, maybe even Jackson, maybe even Brady, heaven forbid, if Tampa won it all. That's just the way things happen.

[smuggler]

Voting for MVP takes place after week 17.

[Patler]

I could not care less who wins MVP, All-Pro or any other such award.
Awards such as that stopped having much meaning to me many years ago.