Reischel - Yesterday showed why Love was drafted

[smuggler]

If anything it was a good choice because our GM will need a few years to replenish the cupboards and Rodgers may decide to hang em up by the time the Shepherd is done.

[Bretsky]

I would disagree. More and more qbs are coming in pretty nfl ready on cheap 5 year contracts . We took a project and we will have him playing after two or three years. Then....if....he’s good he sucks up a bunch of cap space on the second deal.

[beveaux1]

With Rodgers, there is already a domino effect in play:

-He throws better with movement than he does setting up in the pocket.
-He is less elusive, can't spin away from rushers as he did. This will get worse and worse.
-He will continue to try and move, because he is better that way.
-He will be dragged down by his legs more and more because if the above.
-His knee, calf and ankle issues will become greater problems or even recur with severity.
-The less he moves, the more he is hit the further is removed from what has made him good.
-While I wouldn't call him brittle, Rodgers is not the most durable QB.
-All the above make another significant injury more probable.
-All the above will adversely impact Rodgers' desire to continue playing.

I think in four years the Packers will need to replace Rodgers whether they will want to or not, and whether Love is the guy, or not.

I recall an often repeated quote "It's better to replace a player a year early than a year late."

[Bretsky]

And I don’t want to be captain obvious but giving up the extra pick handicapped us from getting a wr we need against the competent defenses

[GB-Brandon]

Once again let’s stick to the FACTS!!!

Rodgers is the second highest rated player in the entire league according to PFF at “92.6” so he is certainly “Worth His Contact”. He is also doing it with far less talent then let’s say what Tom Brady has to work with in Tampa or what many other QB’s have with their teams.

Aaron Rodgers has also been one of the best and some years the best QB in the NFL at “beating the blitz” statistically.

He threw his 3rd pick 6 in his entire career Sunday so that was more of anomaly if anything. My theory is it was more that he isn’t comfortable with the other receivers that were on the field against better competition so he forced the ball to Adams. EQ ran the wrong route early and if we’re going to be honest Shepherd doesn’t make most NFL rosters. Once Tonyan got gimpy we had literally nothing left. They are not confident with Sternberger!!!Todd Bowles knew this and threw the kitchen sink at Rodgers and we had no answers!!

With our shitty defense and shitty overall weapons it always comes back to Rodgers having to play at a Superman Level to overcome all the failures. If he doesn’t it’s time to get rid of him and move on!!

Wake the fuck up people!!!

[GB-Brandon]

The Green Bay Packers have “Too Many Fucken Warts”.

Go see a doctor!!! Gute is contagious!!

Rodgers is tired of covering them up!!

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think Rodgers will be playing at 45. I doubt he will be playing at 43. Rodgers best game is based on his mobility. That has and will continue to decline, perhaps rapidly at some point because of his gimpy knee that has been an issue for some time. I think the Packers will be lucky if he lasts at near his current level until the end of his contract.

Seriously? hahahahaha - Rodgers ain't as mobile as he used to be huh? I think you're seeing what you want to see ....... or if not "want" to see, expecting to see after reading and believing sick shit from media pukes.

Rodgers, among other things, is way more athletic than Brady. If Brady can survive to 43 and beyond, certainly Rodgers can. Sure, anybody can get a Dak-like freak injury at any time, but barring that, Rodgers will go on as long as he wants to go on, and it would be an absolute fucking shame if he ends career somewhere else. Maybe my faith is misplaced, but I just can't see Gutekunst, LaFleur, et al being so all out stupid as to let Rodgers go and see the Packers go right down the drain.

[GB-Brandon]

If Rodgers can avoid serious injury and continues to take care of his body the way he does he can easily still play at his level for another 4-5 years. Maybe longer.

Unfortunately he won’t be doing it for the Packers!!!

Packers fans can watch him win a Super Bowl somewhere else while Gute fiddle Fucks around a Losing Franchise!!!

[run pMc]

Gute's early but he's not wrong about drafting a QB like Jordan Love.
Unless Rodgers changes the way he plays - and he's resisted that - he's going to lose effectiveness and end up on IR. He's a good athlete but he's 36. Nobody beats Father Time. I think he has 4-5 seasons left. Maybe 6, but even then you're going to need a good backup; I don't trust him to make it through 16+ games with the way he plays, do you? That's ~100 games; I don't think he has that in him.

Look at Brees and Brady. Those guys get rid of the ball quick and generally stay in the pocket. They've also looked very, very mortal. Favre made it to 41; Rodgers won't make it much past that.

Discussion of how long Rodgers will play (and be effective) aside, the article is incomplete since there are facts to dispute it that the writer ignores.

[run pMc]

I'm with Patler on the OL/WR concerns in the recent draft. I think almost everyone wanted them to draft a WR; I was also concerned about OT depth. Signing Wagner helped, but the possibility of losing Bulaga and Bahktiari in consecutive seasons has to be a concern they address.

Nobody confuses Ryan Tannehill with a HOF QB, and (depending on which stats you prefer) he has been playing at a level on par with Wilson, Rodgers, et al. for TEN. I'd attribute this to scheme fit, plus having a good defense, OL and skill players. Jordan Love doesn't need to be a HOF player, but any QB needs good teammate talent to succeed. Gute has some work to do there.

[Upnorth]

Gute's early but he's not wrong about drafting a QB like Jordan Love.
Unless Rodgers changes the way he plays - and he's resisted that - he's going to lose effectiveness and end up on IR. He's a good athlete but he's 36. Nobody beats Father Time. I think he has 4-5 seasons left. Maybe 6, but even then you're going to need a good backup; I don't trust him to make it through 16+ games with the way he plays, do you? That's ~100 games; I don't think he has that in him.

Look at Brees and Brady. Those guys get rid of the ball quick and generally stay in the pocket. They've also looked very, very mortal. Favre made it to 41; Rodgers won't make it much past that.

Discussion of how long Rodgers will play (and be effective) aside, the article is incomplete since there are facts to dispute it that the writer ignores.

When I think of successful over the age of 38 qbs who are mobile I canthink of 1. Favre. The qbs with late success all are pocket passages with quick triggers and few sacks or pressures. Does that describe rodgers??? If he is as good as Favre at 39 I will be amazed.

Love is our first attempt to draft for future success. We may need mor than one. I'm glad they tried.

[Patler]

Silverstein writes just about the same evaluation of Rodgers as Reischel did:

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...me/5992403002/

What we saw against Tampa Bay on Sunday was a pretty good example of how the Packers’ offensive success tends to dive when the other team eliminates Jones as a threat and makes LaFleur depend on quarterback Aaron Rodgers being the guy he was in the prime of his career.

... he also no longer can tilt the field back his way as he showed on that afternoon and so many others before that.

Both of those factors were in play when the Packers twice had a chance to bite back at the Buccaneers’ aggressive defense.

(He then describes the missed throws to Lewis and MVS in the first half)

Hit either of those two passes and the game would have changed.

... the bottom line is it was two plays that could have put the Buccaneers' defense on its heels, and Rodgers couldn’t make them.

[Joemailman]

Along those lines, I read this week Bucs blitzed about 50% of the time. Rodgers was unable to make them pay. No wonder they had pressure all day.

[GB-Brandon]

Once again Rodgers couldn’t make them pay because we don’t have anybody on our roster that can beat press coverage against tougher competition other then Adams. It was simple. Bracket Adams and the other guys couldn’t win their matchups. If they can’t get a clean release Rodgers has NO CHANCE!! It’s that simple. To think Rodgers wouldn’t throw balls to wide open guys is just ridiculous.

Tonyan got gimped up. MVS, Shepherd and EQ are trash!! Mercedes Lewis is a dinosaur. Sternberger has not developed as planned. There is nothing left in the cupboard. It’s a giant failure on the part of Gute and Rodgers has been left hanging once again.

[Patler]

Don't forget the opportunities that were there, when Rodgers couldn't capitalize. On this game day, Brady dropped a couple passes into well-covered receivers for big plays and Rodgers missed a couple open ones for what should have been big plays. That can be the difference in the nature of the game.