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  • #76
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    In that scenario, whether Love is average or even above average, the Packers would go right down the toilet. Picture the Packers right now with an average or even above average QB instead of Rodgers ..... it would be a pretty sorry picture. Rodgers even at 40, even at 42 or 44 will be a whole helluva lot better than that. I just HOPE it is still for the Packers - and I think the Packers leadership has the good sense to realize that. Anybody not believing that, mark this post and rub it into me if I'm wrong.
    I hope you are right about rodgers at 40. 42 and 44 as I like him. But I don't think you will be right at 42 and 44. I'm skeptical of 40 even.
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
      I hope you are right about rodgers at 40. 42 and 44 as I like him. But I don't think you will be right at 42 and 44. I'm skeptical of 40 even.
      This is it, and why the chance they took on Love pays off. Just like with 4 before 12, the Packers knew they had something after three years and moved on. They’ll have a pretty good idea of Love is a grinder, worker, talented and able. Whatever they choose after the 2022 season, the choice will be made with a lot more information than guessing at college quarterbacks. They’ll see him against NFL competition every day for three years.
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      • #78
        If the Packers extend Rodgers, I’ll trust Love didn’t show what they had hoped he’d show. If they trade him after the 2022 season (ridiculously tradable contract), I’ll bet they know what they’re doing still. No way to guess at this point, but kinda glad we have such a high upside player to develop.
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        • #79
          I hope they take another qb in the draft this year as well. Brohm may not have worked out but it was a smart play. Qb is the most important position and we need to invest to continue into the future. No reason not to have three hof and in a row.

          I need to add that I'm stoked at rodgers play and hope he keeps it up for two more years so week can get a lot for him and maybe an owl or two
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
            Rodgers

            20% chance still playing for the Packers at 40
            0 % chance of playing for the Packers at 42
            0 % chance of playing in the NFL at 44
            That's your prediction? I'll go with 90% at 40, 70% at 42, and 50% at 44. We'll see which one comes the closest.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              If the Packers extend Rodgers, I’ll trust Love didn’t show what they had hoped he’d show. If they trade him after the 2022 season (ridiculously tradable contract), I’ll bet they know what they’re doing still. No way to guess at this point, but kinda glad we have such a high upside player to develop.
              "ridiculously tradable contract", of course, also means ridiculously restructurable.

              I don't give a damn how much upside Love has, he's extremely extremely unlikely ever to be another Aaron Rodgers, even Aaron Rodgers at age 40. That's not really even a knock on Love. Practically no unproven rookie ever would be a good bet to reach that level.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                I hope they take another qb in the draft this year as well. Brohm may not have worked out but it was a smart play. Qb is the most important position and we need to invest to continue into the future. No reason not to have three hof and in a row.

                I need to add that I'm stoked at rodgers play and hope he keeps it up for two more years so week can get a lot for him and maybe an owl or two
                There is actually some pretty good evidence that drafting QBs (especially if you don't have a great one) is smart. See what ARI did with Rosen/Murray. Seemed like insanity until I gave it some thought. Draft enough and eventually you'll hit on one, and it is the most important position to get right. In the case of a HOF franchise type QB, it's less important but still smart -- especially as they age and become more injury prone. You can always trade the backup if they show something, as they did in the Wolf era.

                Now, some teams never seem to get drafting a QB right (looking at you, CHI), but I don't think GB is one of them. I did NOT like the Jordan Love pick, and I hated that they traded up for him. The opportunity cost was too high IMO with other good players available in R1 and losing a R4 draft pick they could've used. If he's even an average-to-above average QB he can take a team into the playoffs with a good supporting cast.
                Look at what Ryan freaking Tannehill has done the last 20 games; statistically he's been among the top 5 QBs and went toe-to-toe with KC in the AFCCG last year. He was brought in as a backup to Mariotta last year; nobody thought he was even a top 15 QB anymore.

                Love is a Packer, so I'll root for him, even moreso if he pans out. I haven't seen him play even a preseason snap so I have nothing to go by. To say the team will go down the toilet with any QB besides Rodgers is an exaggeration unless Gute does nothing with the resulting cap space or utterly fails as a GM to provide supporting talent (in which case he should be fired).

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  "ridiculously tradable contract", of course, also means ridiculously restructurable.

                  I don't give a damn how much upside Love has, he's extremely extremely unlikely ever to be another Aaron Rodgers, even Aaron Rodgers at age 40. That's not really even a knock on Love. Practically no unproven rookie ever would be a good bet to reach that level.
                  It was also highly unlikely that Rodgers would ever be as good as Old Man Favre.

                  They won't trade Rodgers unless they are highly confident that Love can handle the job and excel. There is no pressure from the fan base to give Love a chance. Rodgers, with his resurgence this year, is just too damn good. However 2 years can be a lot in NFL terms for an older player, and a lot for the development of a young QB. By the end of 2022 we should have a good idea about what direction the Packers should take.
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                  • #84
                    "handling the job" and "excelling" are very different things. I don't know about anybody else, but I saw something special in Rodgers very early when he started throwing the ball around. Plus Favre, as great as he was, had a helluva lot bigger downside than Aaron Rodgers ever has had.

                    I suppose winning the lottery three times in a row is remotely possible, but I seriously doubt it happens with Love. Remember, Rodgers was projected to be 50/50 with Alex Smith to be the #1 pick overall. I never heard anything like that about Love.
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