Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[wist43]

Every draft site I've looked at has downgraded Mayfield since his Pro Day. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that NFL teams have. I guess teams will have to decide whether Mayfield just had a bad day, or whether it means he lacks the athleticism he was thought to have.

I haven't looked at Mayfield a lot, only enough to say "no" at 29... not sure where he belongs, but not in the first or second.

If I have time I'll go back and look at some of these guys I've crossed off as potential early round picks.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I kind of like this ILB group. I watched more of Zaven Collins and I'm on board. He can do it all (not a lot of man coverage on tape, but he's great in zone) and he's instinctive. He may not be might first choice in round 1 (depends on who's available), but I'd be on board with drafting him there.

[Fritz]

I haven't looked at Mayfield a lot, only enough to say "no" at 29... not sure where he belongs, but not in the first or second.

If I have time I'll go back and look at some of these guys I've crossed off as potential early round picks.

I hear Mayfield does not test well, and he comes from a shitty program (said the U of M grad).

As Nancy Reagan would advise us, just say no.

[RashanGary]

I kind of like this ILB group. I watched more of Zaven Collins and I'm on board. He can do it all (not a lot of man coverage on tape, but he's great in zone) and he's instinctive. He may not be might first choice in round 1 (depends on who's available), but I'd be on board with drafting him there.

He looks like a good player. Instinctive, smart, etc.... not very impactful though. I didn’t see a playmaker.

[Joemailman]

I hear Mayfield does not test well, and he comes from a shitty program (said the U of M grad).

As Nancy Reagan would advise us, just say no.

He wouldn't have a chance in practice against Rashan Gary.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm leaning towards Javonte Williams as top RB. The more I watch him the more that I like that guy. Not that we'll take him. He's like a faster James Robinson from Jacksonville.

[bobblehead]

I'm leaning towards Javonte Williams as top RB. The more I watch him the more that I like that guy. Not that we'll take him. He's like a faster James Robinson from Jacksonville.

He is the late blooming rose in the dynasty community. Everyones "sexy" pick to vault up ahead of ettienne. I'm not an ettienne fan, but I think Javonte is getting some of the hype that Mac Jones is getting. That guy that almost can't fail, but doesn't have the high upside. Agree, Williams can do it all. The James Robinson comp is pretty good. Robinson was undrafted leaving egg on the faces of 32 GMs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He is the late blooming rose in the dynasty community. Everyones "sexy" pick to vault up ahead of ettienne. I'm not an ettienne fan, but I think Javonte is getting some of the hype that Mac Jones is getting. That guy that almost can't fail, but doesn't have the high upside. Agree, Williams can do it all. The James Robinson comp is pretty good. Robinson was undrafted leaving egg on the faces of 32 GMs.

I have no idea who is considered a riser or faller (there's really no such thing in the scouting community), but I was late to look at players. Must got the bug a couple of weeks ago. I really like Williams. His deep speed isn't great, but that's an overrated aspect of an RB (see Aaron Jones).

RB Williams, WR Bateman, OT Radunz, DL Alim McNeil, EDGE Payton Turner are some early draft crushes for me. I have some others that I like on initial viewing, but I'll hold off on declaring them a draft crush until I evaluate them more.

[Joemailman]

Looking at depth of the draft Top 65 at various positions according to Draft Network:

QB: 5
RB: 3
WR: 11
TE: 2
OT: 8
IOL: 4
IDL: 5
EDGE: 7
LB: 8
CB: 8
S: 4

[RashanGary]

Looking at depth of the draft Top 65 at various positions according to Draft Network:

QB: 5
RB: 3
WR: 11
TE: 2
OT: 8
IOL: 4
IDL: 5
EDGE: 7
LB: 8
CB: 8
S: 4

I’ve never seen that many inside linebackers in a single draft. Usually it’s like 4 guys in the first two rounds. 8 seems like double.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I’ve never seen that many inside linebackers in a single draft. Usually it’s like 4 guys in the first two rounds. 8 seems like double.

I don't think that is just ILBs. EDGE is 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs. LB is off-ball LBs (4-3 LBs and 3-4 ILBs).

[wist43]

Positional definitions have definitely been in flux the past few years...

OLB's are now Edge, along with some lighter traditional DE's... defensive fronts have changed so much in the past 10 years that traditional 3-4 doesn't really exist anymore.

[wist43]

Didn't see what Harvey had posted... what he said.

[RashanGary]

I don't think that is just ILBs. EDGE is 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs. LB is off-ball LBs (4-3 LBs and 3-4 ILBs).

Yeah, I say inside because I consider edge to be on the line of scrimmage. I could have said and should have said “off ball”

[bobblehead]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-and-broncos-trade-up-for-their-quarterbacks-bengals-reunite-burrow-with-chase/

Now here is a mock draft with a dilemma. When the packers pick Teven Jenkins, Christian Barmore and Craig Newsome are all available. Mock has them going Jenkins. I could be happy with either pick. Might spend my 15 minutes talking to KC about acquiring pick 31 also.