Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[GB-Brandon]

I want Aaron Rodgers for 7-10 years; I want Aaron Jones for 4-6 years; I want Davante Adams for 5-7 years. Dillon is fine if paired with Jones, but I don't want to see him as the primary RB. All of that is hardly starving the offense. I see Valdez-Scantling, Lazard, and Tonyan as certainly top ten, maybe top five as second, third, and fourth receivers. That and the depth at TE is plenty IMO. I would like to get a kick returner/WR kinda like Rondale Moore, but I wouldn't want the Packers to draft one anywhere near early enough to get him. If we could pick up a guy like that in the 5th-7th round, that is the ONLY WR I want. If not, Malik Taylor will suffice.

Well this is where we disagree and that’s fine. As much as I like AJ I don’t trust him that far down the road on a big contract due to his position . I don’t trust MVS thrusted into a role anymore then a vertical threat matched up on favorable matchups by having “Better Weapons at the 2 and 3”. Lazard is a premier depth option. I don’t want anything to do with Rondale Moore as he massively injury prone and don’t see him turning into much more then a gadget option. He is so limited at this point and a huge reach to me. Way better options.

In my world I see “Greatness in “12” and the most sensible thing to do is surround him with as much “Greatness” as possible. This is the farthest thing that has happened!!! It’s a damn shame!

[RashanGary]

I'm gonna trust these guys know how to evaluate talent well and have a good process and hope for the best.

[GB-Brandon]

I'm gonna trust these guys know how to evaluate talent well and have a good process and hope for the best.

Yes. At the end of the day we’re stuck with their decisions. I thought the forum was designed to discuss them.

Trust these guys? HELL NO!! That was lost a long time ago! HOPE? A sliver that they will finally do the right thing.

[The Renegade]

Probably one of the worst draft scenarios the universe could muster, but I cant see this past years collegiate season being a good enough readout on any of the incoming talents skill set and character. A national pandemic is going to add an astronomical amount of variables to the equation.

[Upnorth]

I'm gonna trust these guys know how to evaluate talent well and have a good process and hope for the best.

The massive amount of success we have had the last 2 years proves they know more than most.
13-3 and nfccg 2 years consecutively. Points to good things imo.
Dont get me wrong a sb would be even better but I am grateful for the skill they have shown in roster building. There are players we can all point to that we feel would be the solution or missing piece, but ultimately those players also have to chose coming to lambeau.

[RashanGary]

The massive amount of success we have had the last 2 years proves they know more than most.
13-3 and nfccg 2 years consecutively. Points to good things imo.
Dont get me wrong a sb would be even better but I am grateful for the skill they have shown in roster building. There are players we can all point to that we feel would be the solution or missing piece, but ultimately those players also have to chose coming to lambeau.

Pretty much. Preston and Graham were mistakes. Otherwise, gute has been gold.

[Bretsky]

Pretty much. Preston and Graham were mistakes. Otherwise, gute has been gold.

do you seriously believe that or are you just trying to get under GBR's skin ?

[RashanGary]

And Preston and graham were both somewhat productive. Just not A moves. More like D+. Other than that, Gutes been at or near the tops in the business.

[RashanGary]

do you seriously believe that or are you just trying to get under GBR's skin ?

The Packers are one of the best teams in the league back to back. That is Gute.

[Bretsky]

The Packers are one of the best teams in the league back to back. That is Gute.

It's WAY more Rodgers than Gute IMO

[Fritz]

The Packers are one of the best teams in the league back to back. That is Gute.

I think the jury's still out on him.

Look at that offense. The best players on that offense are the following:

Rodgers
Bakhtieri
Linsley
Adams
Jones
Tonyan

Five of the six came from the much-maligned Ted Thompson.

Gute had a big hit with Jaire Alexander. The Z Smith signing looks good, the Rashan Gary pick looks like it's panning out (to my surprise). There have been some other good picks. But it's too soon to judge Gute.

[GB-Brandon]

Yeah. He has lived off re-signing Ted’s key guys and Rodgers mostly. JUST ABOUT ANYBODY COULD OF DONE THAT!!! Can You Walk & Chew Gum At The Same Time?

He has added a few supplemental pieces but as described in an entire thread attributed to this with all the firepower laid at his feet by Thompson this has been a MASSIVE FAILURE overall!! He hasn’t come close to addressing the ongoing weaknesses that have plagued this team for years!!

[GB-Brandon]

It's WAY more Rodgers than Gute IMO

So True. Remove Rodgers and insert let’s say Jarred Goff and they aren’t even a playoff team with Gute’s BIG ROSTER. The receivers all the sudden become a GIGANTIC EYE SORE and the Defense becomes even more PUTRID having to make “More Stops Per Game”. Special Teams already Sucked which shows the back end of your roster was already suspect!!!

LaFluer all the sudden isn’t a genius and Pettine would of just struggled more and more. This will all be coming soon enough though as Brian Gutekunst/Mark Murphy are the No.1 catalyst too fans wearing garbage bags over their head @Lambeau soon enough!!

FUN TIMES!! We’ll see what RG has to say about all these Frauds then cause it’s gonna be even worse then GOFF!!!

[falco]

I think the jury's still out on him.

Look at that offense. The best players on that offense are the following:

Rodgers
Bakhtieri
Linsley
Adams
Jones
Tonyan

Five of the six came from the much-maligned Ted Thompson.

Gute had a big hit with Jaire Alexander. The Z Smith signing looks good, the Rashan Gary pick looks like it's panning out (to my surprise). There have been some other good picks. But it's too soon to judge Gute.

Does he get credit for signing MLF? Something changed to transform us from missing the playoffs 2 years in a row to back to back 13-3 seasons and NFCG appearances.

[run pMc]

TT went 7-9 in his last year, Gute went 6-9-1 in his first year (the final M3/Philbin year). The hiring of MLF made a difference, and the roster has definitely improved since then 2017. GB outscored its opponents by 140 points this year, gave up 21 sacks, and "won the turnover battle" (stupid phrase) by a considerable margin.

It's fun to say it's because of one or two players, but the truth is it requires a lot of factors -- including a large dose of luck -- to play late January or February games. Yes, Gute should get some credit. He's not perfect but on balance he's made good moves the majority of the time.

I don't consider Preston to be a bad signing, I think last year he played well, and based on his history was likely to regress. I didn't think it would be as far as he did, however. He's still in his prime, can play EDGE well, and does not have any major injury history. He's basically Nick Perry except he doesn't miss games. Jimmy Graham was a bad signing, but I think they've figured out what they want from their TE room under MLF, and Jimmy was a M3-era signing.

They have a few warts on the roster, namely ILB, CB, OT, DL, and WR (IMO).

They'll need to replace Aaron Jones/Jamaal Williams also, but I think they'll go cheap there (draft, PS, UDFA). Remember they have Patrick Taylor and Dexter Williams; I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is RB3 and Williams is cut or stuck on PS. There are a number of RBs who will hit FA (Matt Breida?) who could also be signed to a reasonable contract and backup Dillon.