Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

Rodgers is 37. That "10 years" would put him at 47 years old, three years older than Steve DeBerg, who is the oldest person to start an NFL game at QB (he was 44 in 1998). 47 years old would put Rodgers in George Blanda range.

LOL Rodgers is not going to be QBing at 47. I'm pretty sure he'll want to do other things in life. Also, even in an era of QB friendly rules, 40 year old QBs aren't unheard of, but they don't last.
What have Brady's injuries been other than an ACL? Rodgers has had a couple concussions, a broken foot, and two broken collarbones.

[RashanGary]

Gutey said something in his presser that I’ve been saying a bit lately.... he said his guys have been together a while and that helps them. For a while, our personnel dept was being picked apart and new guys were in new roles. They finally have some stability. They really have no excuse to not have an edge on most of the ever changing league. They’re given full reign of personnel and they have continuity with their staff. They should out perform the league if they’re truly good at what they do.

He also said that they have enough draftable players in this shallow class to get through 7 rounds, but the undrafted pool might not be as deep.

He also said last years class were great workers and teammates and that bodes well for their futures in a league where work and team fit play such a big role. He expects them to get better.

And Bakh is doing really well and they’ll protect him from himself as far as maybe making him wait just a little bit before he gets on the field. But he’s a unique grinder and beating the odds is something in Bakhs character.

[RashanGary]

3 days to go. Woot!

[Bretsky]

Gutey said something in his presser that I’ve been saying a bit lately.... he said his guys have been together a while and that helps them. For a while, our personnel dept was being picked apart and new guys were in new roles. They finally have some stability. They really have no excuse to not have an edge on most of the ever changing league. They’re given full reign of personnel and they have continuity with their staff. They should out perform the league if they’re truly good at what they do.

He also said that they have enough draftable players in this shallow class to get through 7 rounds, but the undrafted pool might not be as deep.

He also said last years class were great workers and teammates and that bodes well for their futures in a league where work and team fit play such a big role. He expects them to get better.

And Bakh is doing really well and they’ll protect him from himself as far as maybe making him wait just a little bit before he gets on the field. But he’s a unique grinder and beating the odds is something in Bakhs character.

Gutebag is not much better than TT in these interviews. He danced around the Rodgers questions about as well as I dance on the floor, which is not good at all. I listed to some interviews on this today from the GB press guys. He's a dodger.....and I guess that's ok.

It's very clear to the guys covering the GB Packers that Gutebag and Rodgers do not remotely see eye to eye. There was a reason the Rams called inquiring about Rodgers . Word out out for anybody who doesn't want to put the blinders on.

I think the clock is ticking, and while I hope I'm wrong I don't think this is going to end well

[Bretsky]

I'll say this too; these GB reporters are reaching out to Rodgers as well, and hes not talking, other than dropping a crumb here and there in his interviews

[RashanGary]

Rodgers is annoyed with the Love pick. He gives everything and plays great.

The Packers know Rodgers is almost 40 and plan for their whole existence not just Rodgers career


There’s no ill will but I understand 12 feeling how he feels.



Me, as a fan, I hope 10 is a HOFer and we move on the same way we did from Favre. But I’ll always appreciate the way the two guys played before him. I wouldn’t be mad if Rodgers went somewhere and won a title as long as Love gets one some day too. But they don’t have to make that decision now and that’s what annoys Rodgers. The team can sit and wait to see what Love is up to before they make a call and Rodgers is annoyed because he gives them 100 only to get a maybe back.

[RashanGary]

The Packers drafted Love at the absolute WORST time for Rodgers. They can wait 3-4 year's before they have to make a call and Rodgers gets extreme contract insecurity in the last contract window of his career. Just absolute worst career timing possible from Rodgers perspective.

[texaspackerbacker]

All true. It was bonehead stupid to draft Love - even if Love is decent, which is far from a sure thing.

I would neither bet on Rodgers playing to age 47 nor bet against it. I would bet on his playing effectively, make that great, until he's 43, 44, maybe 45.

I say again, the Packers are going down down down when they lose Rodgers. Myself, I'd prefer to make that 5, 6, 7, 8, maybe 9 or 10 years from now. I can certainly understand if Rodgers is pissed off, although I'm not convinced that is not just fake news generated by the God damned media. Either way, I'm not invested in what Rodgers feels, thinks, whatever, only in the Packers winning. If Rodgers is gone, he becomes part of the enemy - well, opposition anyway - no "good luck", "best wishes" whatever.

[sharpe1027]

The fan theories around drafting of Love are overblown. Much like the Rodgers pick, they most likely saw great value and had him highly rated. They know as well as anyone QBs bust as much as they hit even at the top of the first round. Why would they be stupid enough to assume Love is they next HoF QB by planning to jettison Rodgers before necessary?

Hint, they aren't that stupid,and that's not what they're doing.

[bobblehead]

Gutebag is not much better than TT in these interviews. He danced around the Rodgers questions about as well as I dance on the floor, which is not good at all. I listed to some interviews on this today from the GB press guys. He's a dodger.....and I guess that's ok.

It's very clear to the guys covering the GB Packers that Gutebag and Rodgers do not remotely see eye to eye. There was a reason the Rams called inquiring about Rodgers . Word out out for anybody who doesn't want to put the blinders on.

I think the clock is ticking, and while I hope I'm wrong I don't think this is going to end well

Duh, one is on a very limited time frame of less than 5 years left in his career and the other thinks about this team 5-10, even 15 years down the line.

That said however, the media isn't helping issues. I find myself getting very angry at Rodgers selfishness in all this, but then I remember, he hasn't actually publicly done anything too bad. I mean about the worst thing he did was the line about 2 fingers of tequila and that was in response to a question, not something he just up and spurted out.

Bottom line. Rodgers has come up short in 6? I think it is NFCC games. That is a pattern. Its not a pattern of the team failing him everytime. He has played well enough, but I could pick apart his decisions in the biggest moments if I were inclined to rehash things I have written many times. And Gutes hasn't had a stellar draft record so far, but his first draft is just now entering its 4th year, so there is only so much to go off of.

In all I'm a fan of the Gutes approach in general, but I haven't been a fan of his choices within that approach. However, its hard to argue with back to back NFCC games and he nailed the head coaching hire. If he hit on "his quarterback" he has set us up for another decade of great football teams.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers is annoyed with the Love pick. He gives everything and plays great.

The Packers know Rodgers is almost 40 and plan for their whole existence not just Rodgers career


There’s no ill will but I understand 12 feeling how he feels.



Me, as a fan, I hope 10 is a HOFer and we move on the same way we did from Favre. But I’ll always appreciate the way the two guys played before him. I wouldn’t be mad if Rodgers went somewhere and won a title as long as Love gets one some day too. But they don’t have to make that decision now and that’s what annoys Rodgers. The team can sit and wait to see what Love is up to before they make a call and Rodgers is annoyed because he gives them 100 only to get a maybe back.

Wish he had given it 100% on 2nd and 3rd from the 9 with open grass in front of him.

[bobblehead]

All true. It was bonehead stupid to draft Love - even if Love is decent, which is far from a sure thing.

I would neither bet on Rodgers playing to age 47 nor bet against it. I would bet on his playing effectively, make that great, until he's 43, 44, maybe 45.

I say again, the Packers are going down down down when they lose Rodgers. Myself, I'd prefer to make that 5, 6, 7, 8, maybe 9 or 10 years from now. I can certainly understand if Rodgers is pissed off, although I'm not convinced that is not just fake news generated by the God damned media. Either way, I'm not invested in what Rodgers feels, thinks, whatever, only in the Packers winning. If Rodgers is gone, he becomes part of the enemy - well, opposition anyway - no "good luck", "best wishes" whatever.

Tex, I know you were around to see the egg on the face of every 70,286 posts that read exactly like this but insert rodgers for Love and Favre for Rodgers.

[texaspackerbacker]

Mine wasn't one of them, although if I'd been posting then, it might have been. Basically, Favre, as great as he was, was not Rodgers-great - nobody in football history ever was. And when Rodgers was drafted, the Packers seemingly at the time, and history proves, got an incredible bargain. He was a toss up with Alex Smith for #1 overall who fell mainly just because teams didn't need a QB. I honestly don't remember, but I don't think the Packers were particularly needy at any position group then either, as arguably they were when they drafted Love.

It would be absolutely sickening to see Rodgers go in 2 or 3 or 4 years to either a team with Bears or Lions level talent and bring them up to near the top or to see him go to a seem with a better supporting cast than the Packers and do what Brady did several times over. And mark my words, that's what would happen while the Packers languished in the lower half of the league with Love and even with the talent of the rest of the team better than it is now.

Did Gutekunst "hit" with the choice of LaFleur? I have a high opinion of LaFleur, and he undoubtedly is a great upgrade from McCarthy, but IMO, his extreme success is a product of having the good sense to ride Rodgers and not force his way, just make a few subtle modifications.

[RashanGary]

McGinns scouts they they’ve never seen so many off ball linebackers in the top 75. They said there were good starters to be found in the 4th round.

I’m also not the only guy who really likes Pere Werner.

In the third, a high upside guy like Chazz Surratt would make sense. Or a rock solid guy like Jabril Cox.

[call_me_ishmael]

Boy, if Rashawn Slater is there at 20, I would try to trade-up to get him. 69 coming off injury, extremely expensive, etc. Best case, this dude is a long term starter at RT. He could also be a top notch guard. If Bak doesnt recover right, this guy could play LT too I think.