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The defense has really come on the last month or two. Playing at statistical top 5 level down the stretch along with the number 1 offense and some suspect special teams. Maybe it’s all hands on deck for special teams with Amos, Lazard and maybe a guy like Savage to slow down punt gunners and Aaron Jones to return kicks.
Man, I’d love to see a super bowl championship for 12 and company. Really light up the GOAT talk. It 12 somehow got 3, he’d be right in that Brady, Montana discussion for GOATFormerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Antonio Brown is out for Sunday. Not a huge loss, but Brady spent some juice trying to put him in the mix. Vita Vea, the big NT is active for the game. This is mainly smoke, he won't be that effective coming off a broken ankle. The big worry attacking this D is their ILB's David and White are like that pair SF had a few years ago. They are first rate. I know 12 would love to put in these two young backers in a trick bag. Especially after White shot his mouth off after the debacle in Tampa in October. A problem is, the kid is so good, he can spout off. TB has some really active DB's. But they are young ones. I know 12 and Devonte have some nice shake and go's and other tricks up their sleeves to reward them for their aggressive play in Fla.
Defensively, the game plan is stop Jones and knock Brady off his spot. That is hardly news, but it is true. Old Tom is great, but we may just have the GOAT in green and gold.
As far as the game, I don't want to talk about whether we should have drafted Joe Blow 3 years ago. Let's fold back ears and knock the shit out of these guys. Their mouths were flapping pretty hard in October, let's clock them in the mouth and shut 'em up in January.
I got a feeling, Packers going to the Super Bowl.
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I have that feeling too but it isn’t our defensive talent per say. It’s the feeling of “Mike Pettine.” He is the one wild card that scares me on that side of the ball. The players are gonna go with all they got but Pettine has to put them in position to win. If he coaches this game “Scared” then we’re screwed. He has to let that back end play!!! Brady isn’t a mobile QB so make him uncomfortable and frustrate him. Them not having AB is a big deal. It’s all in the hands of Pettine. I believe in our players to get it done and the talent on that side of the ball!! We’re gonna live and die with Pettine!!!Originally posted by Upnorth View PostThe closer we get the more I'm worried our d isn't up to task. We have been improving but Tampa has a great o. 3rd or 4th best in the league.
I don't think we can win this one.
On offense it’s the same old same old. Rodgers is gonna show up!! He is just razor locked in and he won’t let us down. We need to get another great effort from OL and obviously take care of the ball.
AND CATCH THE FUCKEN BALL!!!!!!!!
That’s the recipe!!! I really believe we win this in the end!!!! I’ve been rolling the Pack over since Tennessee!!
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If people go back and look at my posts way way way back my three biggest concerns for this team before this season even started we’re.
1. Wide Receiver- missing piece in LaFluer Offense
2. Mike Pettine and his ability to be competent and run a legitimate defense
3. Offensive Line holding up.
Looks like we’re good at OL but number 1 and 2 are gonna decide if we go to the Super Bowl!!!
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RE: Bend but don't break
Is it even a smart defensive strategy? I guess it works against worse offenses, where they might make a mistake somewhere within a long drive.
But you're tiring your defense out (so they'll become increasingly less effective), keeping your offense off the field (messing up their rhythm), and allowing the opposition to rest their defense. If we then allow a TD, it is catastrophic; the worst possible outcome.
Against good offenses, I'd probably rather be aggressive and take more risks, especially early. If you blow it, maybe you give up a quick TD, but at least you didn't wear down your defense doing so (which should keep them fresher later). And you allow your offense to wear down their defense, which will pay off later.
I think the MM days were the worst of both worlds. Quick strike offense, allowing opposing defenses to stay fresh; BBDB defense - tired and useless at the end of games, which likely led to their terrible metrics.
This is likely why the Patriots were so good in the clutch; they were facing an exhausted defense down the stretch. This is also a part of why the Packers are better under Lafleur. They'll likely be even better when they rid themselves of Pettine's philosophy.
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I think so too. Aaron just remarked that Tramon looked "amazing" in practice and could go 70 snaps (which might be smoke).Originally posted by The Shadow View PostI think Tramon's return is big. Feel a lot more confident now.
But there is this: last year the Packers were very good on D in the red zone and Tramon talked about it all year. This year they are better on D overall but much worse in the red zone -- opposite of bend but don't break. In fact they gave up 2 TDs and one FG on three drives to the Rams. On the Rams other 5 drives they only had twenty-eight yards total. Seems like that was the case in all the games down the stretch.
Hoping Tramon can at least be a huge help in the end zone. I don't know what else explains such a drop off.
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