I thought it was a thing of beauty. When have we seen the KC offense ever get destroyed like that? Todd Bowles just showcased a masterpiece. He had answers for everything. Mahommes was just tormented all game long. Loved it.
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I think the thread title here is perfect. I haven't felt this way since 2014 - if the Pack had played even a so-so game two weeks ago they'd have been in the Super Bowl, and likely would have beaten KC.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostBe a hater if you want and I was a Brady hater back in the day but his hold on GOAT has been cemented in tonight and there is no doubt.
I have to disagree with you here, Mad: I don't think Brady played all that great, either two weeks ago or yesterday. Give him all day to throw, sure, but even then the dude missed several passes and if he sniffed any pressure he was way off. Not GOAT-like to me.
This is because I think the emphasis on championships won in team games is way, way overblown. For those of you old enough, that was the knock on Ernie Banks in Chicago: the Cubbies never won a World Series with him.
He's one guy. What's he supposed to do? Pitch and play catcher, too?
It's a team game. Put Brady on the Lions and no matter how hard he worked or how much he willed the organization, they wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl this year, period.
I think Stafford gets that same unfair criticism - somehow he was supposed to bitch and moan and insist that the Lions get more talent or something, and because he didn't somehow he's not a really good QB. That's bullshit, to me. IS he supposed to tell the GM who to draft and complain when it's not the guy he wanted?
Winning a championship requires lots and lots of good decisions from lots of people along the way. The QB has more influence then others, but he's not the only factor."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Doesn’t matter. When you have “The Media & The Hardware” behind you that’s all that matters.Originally posted by Fritz View PostI think the thread title here is perfect. I haven't felt this way since 2014 - if the Pack had played even a so-so game two weeks ago they'd have been in the Super Bowl, and likely would have beaten KC.
I have to disagree with you here, Mad: I don't think Brady played all that great, either two weeks ago or yesterday. Give him all day to throw, sure, but even then the dude missed several passes and if he sniffed any pressure he was way off. Not GOAT-like to me.
This is because I think the emphasis on championships won in team games is way, way overblown. For those of you old enough, that was the knock on Ernie Banks in Chicago: the Cubbies never won a World Series with him.
He's one guy. What's he supposed to do? Pitch and play catcher, too?
It's a team game. Put Brady on the Lions and no matter how hard he worked or how much he willed the organization, they wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl this year, period.
I think Stafford gets that same unfair criticism - somehow he was supposed to bitch and moan and insist that the Lions get more talent or something, and because he didn't somehow he's not a really good QB. That's bullshit, to me. IS he supposed to tell the GM who to draft and complain when it's not the guy he wanted?
Winning a championship requires lots and lots of good decisions from lots of people along the way. The QB has more influence then others, but he's not the only factor.
Any attempt to get Rodgers in this discussion has been LOST!
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Tampa was 7-9 last year. I don't claim to be an expert on the Bucs' roster, but Gronk and Brady are the parts I know they added.Originally posted by Fritz View PostI think the thread title here is perfect. I haven't felt this way since 2014 - if the Pack had played even a so-so game two weeks ago they'd have been in the Super Bowl, and likely would have beaten KC.
I have to disagree with you here, Mad: I don't think Brady played all that great, either two weeks ago or yesterday. Give him all day to throw, sure, but even then the dude missed several passes and if he sniffed any pressure he was way off. Not GOAT-like to me.
This is because I think the emphasis on championships won in team games is way, way overblown. For those of you old enough, that was the knock on Ernie Banks in Chicago: the Cubbies never won a World Series with him.
He's one guy. What's he supposed to do? Pitch and play catcher, too?
It's a team game. Put Brady on the Lions and no matter how hard he worked or how much he willed the organization, they wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl this year, period.
I think Stafford gets that same unfair criticism - somehow he was supposed to bitch and moan and insist that the Lions get more talent or something, and because he didn't somehow he's not a really good QB. That's bullshit, to me. IS he supposed to tell the GM who to draft and complain when it's not the guy he wanted?
Winning a championship requires lots and lots of good decisions from lots of people along the way. The QB has more influence then others, but he's not the only factor.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Fair enough. I do think, though, big picture, that Brady was not way so much better than other QB's.Originally posted by Zool View PostTampa was 7-9 last year. I don't claim to be an expert on the Bucs' roster, but Gronk and Brady are the parts I know they added."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Agreed! Bucs D won the Super Bowl, they stopped the top flying Packer offense and sacked Rodgers 5 times in the NFC Championship game, then didn’t allow the 17-1 Chiefs to get a even a TD.Originally posted by Jaire View PostWon in the trenches. Like the NFCCG
Bucs had the best D(for the playoffs) and are solid on offense. The Pack could have won but had to be perfect. Brady did not need to be perfect. He had the better O line and the better front 7.
Clearly the Bucs D was the unit that won this years title.
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Agreed. I was fuming at the television because I kept telling my wife that the Chiefs didn't learn a damn thing from watching that Packer loss. Had LeFleur called for more runs, or Rodgers not checking out of runs, or whatever it was, the offense would have been much more effective.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostMy favorite stat. Chiefs called 11 running plays all game. Way unbalanced offense. Bucs called 28 runs and 29 passes (maybe a few more where brady was sacked).
Teh NFC Champiionship game was like watching an MM-coached game. Oh shit, we're behind, the hell with running!
I was fuming watching the SB. Kept thinking that if the Pack had played even a mediocre game, they'd have been in, and won, the SB."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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