Official Fire Chuck Berry Thread

[Joemailman]

What say you Rats?

[King Friday]

Clearly I should have stuck to my guns after game #1.

Willing to see if he can turn it around this year, but there is too much talent on the roster for the defense to look this bad. He is toast is this is a middling defense at year end.

[Freak Out]

I'm not sure WTF Berry was thinking but his strategy the second half sucked balls. Of course the offense did as well especially the MVP but that's another thread. The D is loaded with talented round one picks but still found a way to blow it.

[Bretsky]

What say you Rats?

BARRY SUCKS BALLS; that's the best thing I have to say; he was a terrible hire. He's sucked everywhere else and he sucks now. ML hired a friend

Last week ML let it slip with the media that he had to meet with BarryBallSucker about the defensive philosophy.

WANT KEY NOTES ?

Through the first 4 games, GB was dead last, NUMBER 32 in Blitzes. I'd bet we're in the same spot after game 5. We rush 4 only more than any team in the NFL.
Even when we showed blitz, the Giants didn't take it seriously and we dropped our "fake" blitzers back into the dam zone. Did I mention...BARRY SUCKS ?

We were no better last year than with Pettine. We returned two key pieces from last year, and added a off the charts athletic ILB

But if by chance, Preston Smith or Gary do not penetrate for a sack, our pass rush is bare minimal and we fall back into the dam zone and with no pass rush we eventaully get picked apart. The DAM Giants....without their top 3 or 4 WR's. Danny Jones with a higher QB rating that Sharon. Did I mention, BARRY SUCKS

We're so dam predictable on defense, a good coach can outscheme us anyday.

The solution was right up the road from us, but we were a bunch of tight asses and lowballed a DC offer ...to the solution...JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY

I don't know if he would have switched had to really tried to close the deal with him, but it wasn't going to happen without a significant raise.


Oh, and BARRY SUCKS. Jerry Gray's not the long term solution either....but I'll take him over Barry

[Joemailman]

Last year in week 2 the Packers trailed the Lions 17-14 at halftime. At that point MLF told Barry that if you're rushing 4 and not getting pressure, you can't just keep rushing 4. You either need to bring more pressure, or rush 3 and play coverage. Barry brought more pressure, and Packers shut out Lions in 2nd half. The problems may be different this year, but if Barry is going to continue to be slow to make adjustments, MLF may have to impose his will on the defense.

[call_me_ishmael]

Maybe put in a call to Bretsky's Baylor Boy.

[texaspackerbacker]

I doubt he goes from a college head coaching job to a pro DC job.

The logic is the same for firing Barry now as it was for Chryst. The team very well could go on and have an excellent season in spite of Barry's D - maybe that's what happened last year, and if they finish good, it would be a much harder thing to fire him then. There are just too many teams in the league with DCs who have better performance with players nowhere near as good as ours.

[Fritz]

If MLF has to keep kicking Joe Barely to get him to bring pressure, then maybe Joe's not the right guy for the job.

Highly unusual to fire a DC in the midst of the season, but if Joe doesn't loosen up and get a little more aggressive in his calls, then maybe MLF will give him an ultimatum.

I hope TJ SLaton gets more snaps, too. He looked best he has all season last week. If he can take some snaps at the nose and be effective, they can move Clark around a little and free him up a bit.

And let's hope Wyatt picks up the game a little bit and can start to play some snaps, too.

But I don't think anyone's impressed with Joe Barely. Guy has an awful lot of talent to play around with, and he's not doing squat.

[call_me_ishmael]

I guess I would say that at some point it's on the players unless the wrong plays are being called. They brought in Barry to play the Rams system. Isn't he doing just that? What do the Rams do differently?

It kinda seems like every time you get a new coordinator some year they have success for a year then sort of stink after. Seems like the message/act runs hollow. Meh.

[Fritz]

Maybe you just make it team policy to fire the DC after every season.

Ish, I do think lots of folks think the wrong plays are being called. Slow to adjust to the NE game plan of running the ball, and a very passive defense against the Gints that allowed a non-passing team to come from a two-touchdown deficit.

[Bretsky]

If MLF has to keep kicking Joe Barely to get him to bring pressure, then maybe Joe's not the right guy for the job.

Highly unusual to fire a DC in the midst of the season, but if Joe doesn't loosen up and get a little more aggressive in his calls, then maybe MLF will give him an ultimatum.

I hope TJ SLaton gets more snaps, too. He looked best he has all season last week. If he can take some snaps at the nose and be effective, they can move Clark around a little and free him up a bit.

And let's hope Wyatt picks up the game a little bit and can start to play some snaps, too.

But I don't think anyone's impressed with Joe Barely. Guy has an awful lot of talent to play around with, and he's not doing squat.

You can pay me a LOT LESS to call an occasional fake blitz where they all drop back into a zone..... and base zone coverage the whole game

[Bretsky]

I guess I would say that at some point it's on the players unless the wrong plays are being called. They brought in Barry to play the Rams system. Isn't he doing just that? What do the Rams do differently?

It kinda seems like every time you get a new coordinator some year they have success for a year then sort of stink after. Seems like the message/act runs hollow. Meh.

The Rams blitz more than GB does and they do play some man.

The Baylor HC, if let go....I'd take him in GB in a second

If Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy doesn't get named the WI HC...perhaps leopold instead (I doubt it though), sign him up yesterday. Jimmy loves Man D Coverage; Jaire would love Jimmy

[run pMc]

You can pay me a LOT LESS to call an occasional fake blitz where they all drop back into a zone..... and base zone coverage the whole game

Not only that, but get the LBs to drop into zone correctly, have the CB's hand off crosser routes correctly, and not line everyone up 8 yards off the line. You're giving up too much ground there over fears of rub routes. Teams don't need to call rub routes; they can just call crossers until Barry and Co. fix it.
Daboll called a ton of them and dared GB to stop them, and instead they let Jones go 13-for-14 in the second half. Daniel Jones is not a better QB than Aaron Rodgers, but he clearly played like he was in the second half.

It's both coaching and execution.

I realize there's not a lot of time to make halftime or in-game adjustments, but the better coaches seem to be able to. I haven't seen that from Barry this year. It actually feels like he's just calling the same things over and over and expecting them to stop failing eventually.

[Bretsky]

HOLY CRAP CHECK THIS OUT

TJ Slaton on #Packers defense: "I think we were a little too dialed in at times with the plan and what we practiced. We knew what we were going to see, and I think we were just getting a little lost. We were getting a little lost when we didn’t see what we were practicing

TJ Slaton said the biggest surprise today was how often Giants called bootlegs with Daniel Jones. It's something #Packers knew was part of the Giants offense, but they just didn't stop. Once Brian Daboll saw Packers couldn't defend it, he kept calling it. Packers never adjusted.

[Freak Out]

It was nuts to see especially after they ran it against the Bears many times. Debacle. Still think Arod deserves most the blame for the loss.