Official Fire Chuck Berry Thread

[texaspackerbacker]

So based on that video, Enagbare is the Packer Player of the Game hahahaha.

[The Shadow]

The Packers D seems to be freelancing at this point. They were fortunate to be in the right places for the interceptions & it didn't hurt that the opposing QB might have been concussed.

[run pMc]

I'll give Berry credit for his 2nd half D against the Dolphins, and there have been a few other games where 2nd half has been better, but I still think he needs to go.
I've seen enough to know he's not the answer at DC.

[bobblehead]

The Packers D seems to be freelancing at this point. They were fortunate to be in the right places for the interceptions & it didn't hurt that the opposing QB might have been concussed.

You base this on your intricate knowledge of the scheme?

[bobblehead]

I'll give Berry credit for his 2nd half D against the Dolphins, and there have been a few other games where 2nd half has been better, but I still think he needs to go.
I've seen enough to know he's not the answer at DC.

I agree to a point. But the final chapter hasn't been written yet. If Leonhard is available I would like to see a change (or Fangio).

[Joemailman]

Leonhard has been very quiet since announcing he won't return to Badgers. What are the chances he has offer from Packers already?

[texaspackerbacker]

I thought he flat out said it hahahaha. I guess I'd be ok with the Packers hiring him - anybody but Barry. Leonhard's D ought to work better in the NFL than it did with the Badgers. I'm a little concerned, though, with his tendency to shock and awe teams early, and then in the second half when they adjust, he has a hard time counter-adjusting.

[George Cumby]

Leonhard has been very quiet since announcing he won't return to Badgers. What are the chances he has offer from Packers already?

*fingers crossed*

[Bretsky]

Leonhard has been very quiet since announcing he won't return to Badgers. What are the chances he has offer from Packers already?

Very slim. I really think some in here are underestimating the friendship along with some loyalty that mlf has. I also don’t think it’s remotely a given that Barry is gone

[Bretsky]

With the type of defenses Leonard runs and the creative blitz blitz packages he sends I think he would be a perfect fit with gb and their athleticism

[texaspackerbacker]

True, but even with the outstanding Packer Corners, leaving them out on an island is risky, and that's the main if not only tactic Leonhard uses. I watched Oklahoma in their bowl game tonight, and it really reminded me of the Badger D - getting burned repeatedly by a good but not really great offense. And regardless of who your outside rushers are, they aren't always gonna get home in the NFL. When they didn't at Wisconsin, Jimmy's D got gashed a lot. And then there's the adjustment thing ......

[RashanGary]

Jaire has an amazing feel for when to crash down out of his zone and make a play on the ball. He’s an elite zone corner. Barry is playing to his top guys strengths. Jaire would get murdered in man.

[texaspackerbacker]

I sort of think the opposite. Jaire has always been an elite Man Corner, although he maybe has slipped up and got beat a few times this season. In zone, he sometimes freelances, causing the whole scheme to break down. That crashing down you're talking about is great - right up until it isn't, and somebody is wide open. That has happened too many times this season.

I don't think Jerry Gray is a very good teacher of Zone D, and I think Barry's schemes rely too much on that Zone D which gets faulty too often.

[run pMc]

Agree. Jaire was excellent man/press-man cover corner coming out of college. He can do it all but is better at man coverage.

Barry plays a zone-heavy scheme.
Pettine played more man coverage, don't recall much if any press-man though. Drove me crazy to see a giant corner like Kevin King lined up 8-10 yards off but in man coverage.

I'd like to see the corners play more physical inside the 5 yard zone from the LOS to throw off timing and maul younger/smaller receivers. Rasul is a big dude and Jaire/Stokes have make-up speed, plus that's what you have safeties and zone coverage to help with.

I think Jaire and Stokes are better man corners, and Rasul better in zone.

[bobblehead]

Seems the rumors of Mr. Berry's demise have been greatly exaggerated.