AR wants out?!

[Bretsky]

Listened to an interview with Andrew Brandt a couple days ago. Made reference to how Brett Favre would often come up and hang out with Bob Harlen.
Made reference that when he was there AROD would often come up by him and just chillax and hang out and enjoy time like they were friends.

It's very clear the atmosphere Marica and Gutebag have not sent up this type of atmosphere in GB.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Listened to an interview with Andrew Brandt a couple days ago. Made reference to how Brett Favre would often come up and hang out with Bob Harlen.
Made reference that when he was there AROD would often come up by him and just chillax and hang out and enjoy time like they were friends.

It's very clear the atmosphere Marica and Gutebag have not sent up this type of atmosphere in GB.

Can you imagine raising a stink at your workplace because the new boss doesn't want to be chill friends?

[Bretsky]

Can you imagine raising a stink at your workplace because the new boss doesn't want to be chill friends?

pretty ignorant generalization IMO

If you are an important factor to a teams success do you feel like there should be a positive atmosphere set up so you feel like part of the success ?

[Harlan Huckleby]

pretty ignorant generalization IMO

If you are an important factor to a teams success do you feel like there should be a positive atmosphere set up so you feel like part of the success ?

I don't think AR cares about a "positive atmosphere" such as you described. And there certainly is no lack of glory for him when the team succeeds. He wants more control.

AR not only wants to be GM, he wants to be offensive coordinator. He has forever been pissed off at the coaches decisions.

I don't mind AR's personality, he's really smart and wants to win. He butts head with authority. Lots of QBs are inclined this way.

[TateM30]

still dont think they have built up the team well enough around him and everyone knew the teams flaws last season.

if they go the extra mile this year i think it will be down to others failing.

[bobblehead]

I just had a thought/epiphany. If gutes really does want to move on from Rodgers after this season and Rodgers doesn't really want to go (he just wants his version of respect), then Rodgers really screwed the pooch.

At seasons end if Gutes deals ARod for 3 firsts its not like ARod can veto the deal. He just spent an entire offseason of drama crying about wanting to leave and last dance and all. How does he turn around and say "just kidding yo, I really don't want to be traded". He can't. He actually has made it easy for Gutes to trade him and avoid most of the fallout for the decision.

[call_me_ishmael]

He wants a new contract, I don’t think he cares where it is as long as he can win. I, too, would like a new contract with guarantees. Who wouldn’t? I get why he’s mad and I get why the Packers won’t do it, but I also think it’s a bad decision that at this point and time.

[bobblehead]

He wants a new contract, I don’t think he cares where it is as long as he can win. I, too, would like a new contract with guarantees. Who wouldn’t? I get why he’s mad and I get why the Packers won’t do it, but I also think it’s a bad decision that at this point and time.

I think what he really wants is a contract that locks him into Green Bay so they CAN'T move on to Love. The previous deal was unworkable. With the restructure they did to get him in this season I think the best cap move is to extend him after the season although trading him could be done with much pain. That was calculated on his part. He wants to drop another MVP performance on them and force the issue. But again I stress, that would also give them max trade value for him. If they like Love and are willing to move on he made it easy on them. If he had done nothing all off season, come in, dropped a top 3 MVP voting season on them no way Gutes could trade him without major fall out. Now, Gutes can deal him and simply say "we're sad to see him go, but its what he wanted."

[texaspackerbacker]

Yes, simple as that, if as you say, that's what he wants, then if he gets what he wants, literally everybody wins, Rodgers, Packer fans, LaFleur, even Gutekunst. If he doesn't get what he wants, and he is gone after another year or two, then everybody loses, even Gutekunst. I won't say I'm rooting against Love, but I sure wouldn't mind seeing him flounder today - that would increase the odds of Rodgers getting what he wants and all of us winning.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think what he really wants is a contract that locks him into Green Bay so they CAN'T move on to Love. The previous deal was unworkable. With the restructure they did to get him in this season I think the best cap move is to extend him after the season although trading him could be done with much pain. That was calculated on his part. He wants to drop another MVP performance on them and force the issue. But again I stress, that would also give them max trade value for him. If they like Love and are willing to move on he made it easy on them. If he had done nothing all off season, come in, dropped a top 3 MVP voting season on them no way Gutes could trade him without major fall out. Now, Gutes can deal him and simply say "we're sad to see him go, but its what he wanted."

Totally agree this is what he wanted and wants. If he lights it up again, will they try to extend him? I doubt it but I’m excited and hopefully to see.

[call_me_ishmael]

Yes, simple as that, if as you say, that's what he wants, then if he gets what he wants, literally everybody wins, Rodgers, Packer fans, LaFleur, even Gutekunst. If he doesn't get what he wants, and he is gone after another year or two, then everybody loses, even Gutekunst. I won't say I'm rooting against Love, but I sure wouldn't mind seeing him flounder today - that would increase the odds of Rodgers getting what he wants and all of us winning.

I think the Packers are more likely to be better the next 5 years of Love stinks it up in preseason. So we shall see what happens. I think he is as good as gone and the Packers made their choice, but he is gonna win the PR war against them again if he has a good season so I wouldn’t be surprised to see Gooter swallow his pride so his team is better situated in the short term.

[texaspackerbacker]

"Totally agree this is what he wanted and wants. If he lights it up again, will they try to extend him? I doubt it but I’m excited and hopefully to see." - CMI

If he does, and they don't, tar and feather Gutekunst and Murphy and run them out of town.

I agree with your other post too.

[scharpcheddar]

All just more pretend media propaganda

[call_me_ishmael]

"Totally agree this is what he wanted and wants. If he lights it up again, will they try to extend him? I doubt it but I’m excited and hopefully to see." - CMI

If he does, and they don't, tar and feather Gutekunst and Murphy and run them out of town.

I agree with your other post too.

Can’t tar and feather the owner and unfortunately most folks are very ego driven and would rather tear it down and build it in their own image than rely on the guy from the previous guy.

[texaspackerbacker]

Last I heard, Murphy ain't the owner. He answers to the board of directors who in a round about way at least, answer to public opinion. If fans really want you gone - like Dan Devine and a couple others over the years, they'll get rid of you. If they manage to lose Rodgers, and the team flounders as it inevitably will IMO, then there will be a huge amount of pressure to get rid of the leaders who made the badness happen.

I remember when Murphy was hired thinking "damn, what do we have, a Redskin guy? or whatever?" Before that, we had what? Judge Parins? I was fine with him - a loyal Green Bay person over some damn outsider. You can always hire football expertise. but you can't hire loyalty.