AR wants out?!

[Bossman641]

makes more sense than Rodgers putting it out there. Wtf is soo hard to understand that this gives the team 1 month to do some damage control?

Oh we met with him several times.

He didn’t want to restructure. He wanted a n extension.

We offered him an extension. He turned it down.

Blah blah blah. Then the reports about wanting the GM fired. Then the touchdown Jesus stuff. Is all team bs

They saw the writing on the wall. They’re prepping us for the eventual hold out or trade looking for public support.

On the day of the draft? Damage control for a month is one thing. Initiating damage control on the day of the draft is a whole nother story. Good god man use your mind.

If it leaked this week....100% the org could be behind it. It didn't. It leaked on the biggest offseason day of the year when the org was guaranteed to talk to the media. The Packers can't realistically trade him until June 1st....he would cost 1.1M more this year and they have no cap space as it is. Rodgers leaked it so that the next month is spent with ESPN talking trades, discussing how they've disrespected him and he deserves to leave. In case you haven't noticed, ESPN is essentially a mouthpiece for players now.

[Upnorth]

makes more sense than Rodgers putting it out there. Wtf is soo hard to understand that this gives the team 1 month to do some damage contol.

Doing on day 1 of draft weekend does maximum damage to the team's main focus for those 3 days. They would have done it day 3 or Sunday. Your statement actually provides evidence against your own point. For maximum team advantage of damage control you do it the day after the draft. To do maximum damage to the packers front office you do it day 1 of draft when they can't focus on damage control.
Apply logic to your own statement without emotion.

Bossman is 100% correct.

[Freak Out]

Arod should hold a presser and come clean. Let it all out bro.

[Freak Out]

I think he should drop acid before as well.

[RashanGary]

I think he should drop acid before as well.

Clearly.

[SudsMcBucky]

This story has been refuted by people close to Aaron. Even if it were true they’re not going to fire anyone although letting this situation get to this level should have him & Murphy’s ass both removed.

Shocked, I tell you. Shocked!!!

[Packers4Glory]

Doing on day 1 of draft weekend does maximum damage to the team's main focus for those 3 days. They would have done it day 3 or Sunday. Your statement actually provides evidence against your own point. For maximum team advantage of damage control you do it the day after the draft. To do maximum damage to the packers front office you do it day 1 of draft when they can't focus on damage control.
Apply logic to your own statement without emotion.

Bossman is 100% correct.

lol damage to the teams main focus? no. the team is off. The front office is dong the draft and it affects their prep exactly zero. This isn't new to those in the know that matter. your theory makes no sense nor does your choice of days.

[Fritz]

Seems to me there are three ways to look at all this:

One, you think the team is operating like it's still 1965 and doesn't understand modern athletes, so you think Rodgers is right to feel undervalued. You think Gutekunst's cutting of Kumerow 48 hours after Rodgers praised him so publicly, and Gutekunst not bothering to call Rodgers to give him a heads up and some assurances about the Love pick are both evidence of a GM and team that is out-of-touch with today's sports reality. You also probably think that without Rodgers the Packers are rudderless and hopeless, and so the team ought to do anything - anything - to make Rodgers happy. Fire Gutekunst, give Rodgers a five year extension at a number that will make him happy, ask him who he thinks the team should keep at wide receiver and, well, anywhere on the offensive line.

Another very different way of seeing it is to simply look to Madtown's view: Rodgers is a supreme jackass who has cut ties with his own family and will burn down a fucking village if one mouse within it has offended him. In this view, Rodgers has become so poisonous now that there's no way back. And besides, if you kowtow to Rodgers you're undermining the entire organization. Even if they tried for a SB this year, who knows if there'd be too much drama anyway? If you kept Kumerow because of Rodgers, and you called him to let him know you were drafting Love, and you gave him the contract extension he wants, then you've not mollified him but unleashed him. From there, he'd only start telling you who his offensive coordinator should be, and exactly which receivers he wants on the field, and so on and so on. Poison that will destroy the organization both short-term and longer-term.

A third position might be that you think Rodgers is a narcisstic jackass but he's so good that you think you can placate him with an extension, promise him more say, and ignore the ugliness. You think the organization can survive whatever toxicity ensues, and will be worth it because you think in the next two years this team can win a Super Bowl. And you're willing to risk poisoning the well to get that.

[bobblehead]

All that was old is new again. People arguing and speculating about something reported by others who are speculating. It's Favre all over again.

It's possible....just possible....that this doesn't fucking matter an ounce. Everyone spouting truisms about the situation is full of shit. If Rodgers wanting to leave GB effects your life, it's time to leave the house.

We're all full of shit zool, isn't that the point of a message board?

[bobblehead]

Good job, Packers4Glory. In both of these threads, you're about the only one making any sense/beating me to saying a lot of the same things hahahaha.

Ready to reconsider your position yet P4G?

[Upnorth]

lol damage to the teams main focus? no. the team is off. The front office is dong the draft and it affects their prep exactly zero. This isn't new to those in the know that matter. your theory makes no sense nor does your choice of days.

On draft weekend the team and fans main focus is maximizing the draft. Our needs were strongly aligned with the drafts depth. We were going to come out looking really good unless something weird happened. Enter press release. Now we go from an atta boy draft to why they doing rodgers so bad.
I agree that this isn't new to those who matter. But it takes the focus of the draft class and it's success.
I stand by my statement that the best time for the team to leak is may 31st to maximize interest at a time when cap impact becomes substantially less. Trading him prior to this hurts the 2021 season too much, to the point where i dont think they can sign there draft picks.
Your suggestion doesn't add up.

[bobblehead]

I would like ONE reporter to call Adams or Jones and ask "so do you think that Rodgers is being insanely selfish abandoning his team after they maxed out the cap to win in large part due to his contract? I mean, you and others have to play here still, are you angry with him for this?"

[Spaulding]

Seems to me there are three ways to look at all this:

One, you think the team is operating like it's still 1965 and doesn't understand modern athletes, so you think Rodgers is right to feel undervalued. You think Gutekunst's cutting of Kumerow 48 hours after Rodgers praised him so publicly, and Gutekunst not bothering to call Rodgers to give him a heads up and some assurances about the Love pick are both evidence of a GM and team that is out-of-touch with today's sports reality. You also probably think that without Rodgers the Packers are rudderless and hopeless, and so the team ought to do anything - anything - to make Rodgers happy. Fire Gutekunst, give Rodgers a five year extension at a number that will make him happy, ask him who he thinks the team should keep at wide receiver and, well, anywhere on the offensive line.

Another very different way of seeing it is to simply look to Madtown's view: Rodgers is a supreme jackass who has cut ties with his own family and will burn down a fucking village if one mouse within it has offended him. In this view, Rodgers has become so poisonous now that there's no way back. And besides, if you kowtow to Rodgers you're undermining the entire organization. Even if they tried for a SB this year, who knows if there'd be too much drama anyway? If you kept Kumerow because of Rodgers, and you called him to let him know you were drafting Love, and you gave him the contract extension he wants, then you've not mollified him but unleashed him. From there, he'd only start telling you who his offensive coordinator should be, and exactly which receivers he wants on the field, and so on and so on. Poison that will destroy the organization both short-term and longer-term.

A third position might be that you think Rodgers is a narcisstic jackass but he's so good that you think you can placate him with an extension, promise him more say, and ignore the ugliness. You think the organization can survive whatever toxicity ensues, and will be worth it because you think in the next two years this team can win a Super Bowl. And you're willing to risk poisoning the well to get that.

Nice summation, might be worth a poll

As for myself, I'm currently in the 3rd position but trending toward the 2nd depending on any facts to suggest the Packers did look to trade him without him asking for one or something else that suggests Rodgers didn't initiate this drama.

[Joemailman]

I would like ONE reporter to call Adams or Jones and ask "so do you think that Rodgers is being insanely selfish abandoning his team after they maxed out the cap to win in large part due to his contract? I mean, you and others have to play here still, are you angry with him for this?"

Aaron Jones especially, who took less money to stay in Green Bay than he could have gotten as a free agent. It's a tough position for all the Packer players, who can't say anything publicly for fear of either undermining management or pissing off Rodgers.

[Freak Out]

Clearly.

You should as well. LSD will do you some good.