Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
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But it's not just swapping Love for Rodgers. You have a chance to pick up a couple very high draft picks, and more importantly, save 30-40 million on the salary cap for a couple years. That can be used to keep their best players or sign free agents. If Love can play. Packers could come out of this looking very good.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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The way I read it, Texans would save 8.5 million on the cap by trading him. https://overthecap.com/player/randall-cobb/1130/ They would gain nothing by cutting him because his 2021 base salary is guaranteed. So they might be interested in trading him. I just don't know why the Packers would want to take on that salary, unless it's part of the deal that is keeping Rodgers in Green Bay in 2021. Maybe Rodgers lowered his cap number for 2021 so they could afford Cobb? Just speculating here.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI believe the Packers might void the 3rd year. That would require them to make a decision after 2021. Either trade AR for a big haul or commit to him for longer. In exchange, Rodgers lowered his cap number for this year. That's about all I believe. The stuff about Cobb and Adams seems like nonsense. Cobb at $8M/year? No thanks! Plus, I think it would cost the Texans more money to get rid of Cobb than keep him. So, Rodgers commits to one year and that is suddenly going to make Adams more conducive to an extension on the contract he has that has one year left?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Rodgers got a really clean exit after 2022. All power in his hands as soon as that day comes.
The Packers got Rodgers for 2 more years and a clean transition to Love there-after.
The Packers clearly value Jordan Love. Im feeling more optimistic about Love. If they value him so high to let Rodgers go after 2022, maybe he's the next big thing.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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If Love can play..... probably he can to some extent. If you believe the info coming from the team, he looks good. Probably he could start from scratch and be an average to slightly above average as NFL starters go. Is that what we want starting for us at the most important position on the team? Not me.
If Love is as good as they say, though, I'd rather not lose him either.
In the other thread, Joe (I think it was you) posted that Rodgers wants $90 guaranteed over 2 years, which, as you said would necessitate spreading it out over more years. I posted an example of how this could be done - with a $30 million cap hit for each of five years. That would take us one year past the end of Jordan Love's rookie contract. The outcome I'm strongly hoping for is exactly that - keep Love for five more glorious Aaron Rodgers years, and by then, with a lot of luck, Love will be ready for a smooth transition to excellence, not merely "average to slightly above now or in a year" i.e. mediocrity.
Correction: I guess it is the previous page in this thread.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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If this deal is real, the next choice the Packers have to make
Give Jordan Love a third year of development behind one of the GOATs (something that can help Loves development)
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Take the pick or picks and throw love in the fire with an extra piece or two around himFormerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Ya, this is how the PAckers are looking at it. They picked Love, so they are committed to him being a smart direction to go. AndOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostBut it's not just swapping Love for Rodgers. You have a chance to pick up a couple very high draft picks, and more importantly, save 30-40 million on the salary cap for a couple years. That can be used to keep their best players or sign free agents. If Love can play. Packers could come out of this looking very good.
what GM doesn't want draft picks to mold a team his own way?
The team has chosen a smooth glide path out of the Rodgers era. I much prefer to ride Rodgers for a few years.
This move looks remarkably like New England's oh-so-clever transition off of Tom Brady. Except worse, Rodgers is younger.
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yep.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI guess, if you go back to 2020 and trade up in.the first round for a QB, you better feel pretty good about him to create this situation. It looks like theyre doubling down on Jordan Love.
Jordan Love is going to have incredible sex tonight. He's on top of the world now. The man.
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Door number 2.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostIf this deal is real, the next choice the Packers have to make
Give Jordan Love a third year of development behind one of the GOATs (something that can help Loves development)
Or
Take the pick or picks and throw love in the fire with an extra piece or two around him
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One year. Rodgers will never hang around for a second year, his clock is ticking.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostThe Packers got Rodgers for 2 more years and a clean transition to Love there-after.
The Packers have essentially given up all their bargaining leverage now and then said "we negotiate again in a year." All signs point to the Packers making their peace with the new era. But I suppose it's still possible that Aaron appreciates this kid glove treatment and just decides to finish his career in GB. Maybe Murphy is the wise zen master.
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Except the Packers actually have a succession plan. The Patriots plan, if you can call it that, was to replace Brady with a banged-up Cam Newton.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostYa, this is how the PAckers are looking at it. They picked Love, so they are committed to him being a smart direction to go. And
what GM doesn't want draft picks to mold a team his own way?
The team has chosen a smooth glide path out of the Rodgers era. I much prefer to ride Rodgers for a few years.
This move looks remarkably like New England's oh-so-clever transition off of Tom Brady. Except worse, Rodgers is younger.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Montana to young went wellOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostExcept the Packers actually have a succession plan. The Patriots plan, if you can call it that, was to replace Brady with a banged-up Cam Newton.
Favre to Rodgers went well
Manning to Luck went well
Rivers to Herbert is going well
And we haven't seen the entirety of the Patriots decision. We saw one bad luck year. The Patriots were one of maybe 3 teams that actually had spending money last year. They loaded up.
HOF QB's have been successfully replaced over the years.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I’m pretty sure NE had around half their defensive starters opt out because of COVID too.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostMontana to young went well
Favre to Rodgers went well
Manning to Luck went well
Rivers to Herbert is going well
And we haven't seen the entirety of the Patriots decision. We saw one bad luck year. The Patriots were one of maybe 3 teams that actually had spending money last year. They loaded up.
HOF QB's have been successfully replaced over the years."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Cutting a year kills their leverage with AR next year and reduces his trade value too. Everybody knows the Packers have given up on AR and wish to unload him. I don't see why this is a brilliant move. It's a hell of a concession to keep Rodgers on the team for 2021.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI'm disappointed that in 72 pages no Packer rats predicted that they'd compromise by cutting a year. In hindsight, it makes sense.
Perhaps the team thought Rodgers might actually retire. That's the best explanation to me.
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