AR wants out?!

[RashanGary]

The front office made decisions that hurt people's feelings. Using Rodgers list of guys who should have been taken care of: Nelson, Woodson, Lang, James Jones, etc.... Every single time the team made the right decision if they're trying to win first.

If you're gonna hate on.the Packers, you're hating on them for choosing winning above loyalty.


Personally, id rather lose the right way than win without loyalty, but I understand that they've been hired to win so they make those tough calls. I'm not gonna call anyone a piece of shit over Rodgers gripes and accusations.

[Joemailman]

The problem with Aarons personnel decisions is they're loser decisions. If you're gonna lose the right way, call it what it is, say right out that we’re gonna lose the right way. Stop saying you're trying to win when loyalty to old players comes above winning.

I don't think he was saying to choose loyalty over winning. I think he was saying the Packers FO undervalued experience and leadership. That paying Jordy Nelson 3M to stay is better than counting on Geronimo Allison. That expecting M.D. Jennings to replace Charles Woodson is not conducive to winning. Right or wrong, I think that is what Rodgers is saying.

[RashanGary]

I don't think he was saying to choose loyalty over winning. I think he was saying the Packers FO undervalued experience and leadership. That paying Jordy Nelson 3M to stay is better than counting on Geronimo Allison. That expecting M.D. Jennings to replace Charles Woodson is not conducive to winning. Right or wrong, I think that is what Rodgers is saying.

I think I was a little off on that. Good point. That is closer to what he was saying.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Does Gute come out in presser and say Rodgers needs to scramble to his left more, he is too predictable rolling out to right? Gute would just be doing so to try and win....

[jklowan]

Every decision 12 didn't appreciate ended up being a good decision if you're trying to win. This highlights the focus on winning over loyalty that the organization has.

except they didn't win anything

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just thinking about 1 thing rodgers said about wanting to finish his career here and how others got dumped before they could

how many guys actually get to retire as a packer? and i don't mean guys that signed a 1 day contract, or had a career ending injury

theres driver. did tramon retire?

we always get rid of the guys 1 year early instead of one year late. but thats really shitty for guys that have bought into the team and just want to play for green bay

anyone got others? i'm drawing a blank

[Spaulding]

just thinking about 1 thing rodgers said about wanting to finish his career here and how others got dumped before they could

how many guys actually get to retire as a packer? and i don't mean guys that signed a 1 day contract, or had a career ending injury

theres driver. did tramon retire?

we always get rid of the guys 1 year early instead of one year late. but thats really shitty for guys that have bought into the team and just want to play for green bay

anyone got others? i'm drawing a blank

None that I recall recently. Only names of note that I recall whose careers weren't cut short by injury as Packers (Sharpe, Collins, Finley) were Ruettgers, Winters and Chmura which was 20 years ago.

[Joemailman]

Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher. Probably plenty of lesser known guys. Most players retire without much fanfare.

[RashanGary]

Does Gute come out in presser and say Rodgers needs to scramble to his left more, he is too predictable rolling out to right? Gute would just be doing so to try and win....

Good point.

I'm still figuring out where I stand on all of this. Most of the guys Rodgers wanted to keep, I think gute and TT had made the right call on, in terms of winning games.

So far I'm not anti rodgers because he has some points but I'm not anti team because I think they were trying to win games.

[RashanGary]

just thinking about 1 thing rodgers said about wanting to finish his career here and how others got dumped before they could

how many guys actually get to retire as a packer? and i don't mean guys that signed a 1 day contract, or had a career ending injury

theres driver. did tramon retire?

we always get rid of the guys 1 year early instead of one year late. but thats really shitty for guys that have bought into the team and just want to play for green bay

anyone got others? i'm drawing a blank

This is pretty much what I see too. We dump guys near the end, we don't let them get to the end. It sucks because these guys did everything right and deserve to go out with that loyalty and team feeling. But they don't.

It's not to say they're the wrong moves, to cut ties a year early, but its tough to watch. Sours the game, the financial side does.

I don't think anyone means harm. I'm not anti anyone in this thing.

I'm starting to lean a little toward Rodgers overstepping, but it's not like he's trying to cause harm either.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I just listened to AR's full presser. I think he is sincere, not an ass. But his criticism of the Packers is identical to my endless complaint about the NFL. There are no real teams anymore. It's an endless churn of rent-a-players constantly moving around. No loyalty. It isn't a GB specific problem.

[Harlan Huckleby]

For the 100th time, my fix is to exempt players from the salary cap who have been on the same team for > 5 years. That may sound radical, but when you think it through there is no reason for salaries to skyrocket.

[RashanGary]

For the 100th time, my fix is to exempt players from the salary cap who have been on the same team for > 5 years. That may sound radical, but when you think it through there is no reason for salaries to skyrocket.

7 years would probably do the trick too

And yes, you have been calling this out for years.

[Bretsky]

Yeah, I agree Jaire, that was a very damning interview and ARod came out smelling like roses IMHO.

THIS

We thought he stunk really bad before; now I'm torn. After listening to AROD he smells way better. Gutebag really didn't help himself.

And Marcia always smells about the same to me

[Bretsky]

Probably the #1 point Aaron made was that he could have been used in recruiting. Other than that, he assumes you can keep everyone and you just can't.

Two obvious points

The organization doesn't appreciate with Rodgers can offer (similar to your point)

They lacked class (in Rodgers view) in how they treated there players. This just isn't about the guys they cute or reduced pay. This goes back IMO