Official Jordan Love Bandwagon Thread:

[Joemailman]

Kevin Cole
@KevinCole___

2025 quarterback PFF grading and efficiency (EPA/play), min 30 dropbacks

*Updated for MNF

[bobblehead]

Lamaar has just seemed to have taken it to another level. His legs put so much stress on a defense (even when its a handoff to Henry a defense needs to honor him keeping it and that costs the LB a step).

Love is passing well, but his lack of mobility put him squarely behind every QB in his orbit on the above chart.

[bobblehead]

Ironic (or just funny) that Murry and Wilson are side by side. I almost consider them clones of each other.

[run pMc]

I don't think Love has a "lack of mobility" he's as athletic as Rodgers was. He avoids sacks pretty well and keeps his eyes downfield.
I think it's just he's a passer first second and third and only runs when he has to. I'd be ok if he ran a little more, but not if it meant he got hurt doing it, or missed out on a wide open receiver.

the chart is interesting but not super surprising for Love - he's consistently been high in EPA.
I'm amused that this chart basically says Rodgers = Browning and Stroud = Young = Fields, and Rattler = Burrow. Seems wayyyy too early for charts - need more data.

Daniel Jones is not better than Mahomes LOL

[bobblehead]

I don't think Love has a "lack of mobility" he's as athletic as Rodgers was. He avoids sacks pretty well and keeps his eyes downfield.
I think it's just he's a passer first second and third and only runs when he has to. I'd be ok if he ran a little more, but not if it meant he got hurt doing it, or missed out on a wide open receiver.

the chart is interesting but not super surprising for Love - he's consistently been high in EPA.
I'm amused that this chart basically says Rodgers = Browning and Stroud = Young = Fields, and Rattler = Burrow. Seems wayyyy too early for charts - need more data.

Daniel Jones is not better than Mahomes LOL

As always the talent around a guy matters. Burrow is just special, but for some reason only known to the Bengals they have no desire to ever have a good OL to protect him. They would rather pay the weapons. You know what happens to weapons when there is no infantry to protect them.....

[Fritz]

If Love can just get more accurate with those bombs . . . if.

And for a couple of weeks, anyway, why couldn't Daniel Jones be better than Patrick Mahomes? Jones had a nice day against Dallas, dropping some pinpoint bombs. Not saying he's a better
QB, but maybe he's had a better couple of weeks than Mahomes.

[Joemailman]

If Love can just get more accurate with those bombs . . . if.

And for a couple of weeks, anyway, why couldn't Daniel Jones be better than Patrick Mahomes? Jones had a nice day against Dallas, dropping some pinpoint bombs. Not saying he's a better
QB, but maybe he's had a better couple of weeks than Mahomes.

Actually, that was Russell Wilson with bombs against Dallas. Jones now plays for Indy. But yes, Jones has played well. Right now he has better weapons than Mahomes does.

[Joemailman]

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...nd--254126479/

Love and Rodgers: This is kind of eerie.

Jordan Love has started 35 games in his career. Here's how he compares to his predecessor Aaron Rodgers in his first 35 games.

Record: Love 20-15; Rodgers 19-16

Completion percentage: Love 63.6; Rodgers 64.6

Yards per attempt: Love 7.5; Rodgers 7.8

Touchdowns: Love 62; Rodgers 63

Interceptions: Love 23; Rodgers 23

QB Rating: Love 96.6; Rodgers 98.1

[Fritz]

So . . . he’s almost as good as Aaron Rodgers. We’ll take that. For now.

Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson. Somebody in a Giants uni was throwing pinpoint bombs against Dall-ass.

Clearly ol’ Fritzy is not paying attention.

[Patler]

From JSO:

Love leads the NFL in the average length of his passes (12.47) − by an almost 3-yard average – and in average length of his passes on completions (8.89).

[bobblehead]

So . . . he’s almost as good as Aaron Rodgers. We’ll take that. For now.

Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson. Somebody in a Giants uni was throwing pinpoint bombs against Dall-ass.

Clearly ol’ Fritzy is not paying attention.

I'm not even there yet. Rodgers showed me more early on. Less true boneheaded plays. More mobility. Had a worse playcaller. (lets list other stats, not just the cherry picked. Attempts, rushing yards, Super Bowls won. How about the next season? iirc Rodgers was....above average).

[MadScientist]

I'm not even there yet. Rodgers showed me more early on. Less true boneheaded plays. More mobility. Had a worse playcaller. (lets list other stats, not just the cherry picked. Attempts, rushing yards, Super Bowls won. How about the next season? iirc Rodgers was....above average).

The stats were for the first 35 starts. Yeah Rodgers had really good numbers the next year (a year where defenses were behind due to the lack of training camp from the lockout), but we don't know what happens next for Love. Rodgers had 0 SB wins in his first 35 starts. As for rushing, Love and Rodgers had about the same in their first years as a starter, but Rodgers had a lot more in his second year than Love, who was dealing with knee and groin injuries. OTOH Rogers had way more sacks. He had 50 in his second year as a starter alone, whereas Love has 49 in his career so far.

The point isn't that Love is better than Rodgers at his peak, but that at the same level of experience, they are pretty comparable. We tend to compare Love against peak Rodgers, and that isn't really a fair comparison. Rodgers started out good, but not great and developed into great. Love has certainly shown flashes of great, but has mostly been just good. Will he be the next Packers HOF QB? That is unknown. It's far from certain, but not out of the realm of possibility.

[bobblehead]

The stats were for the first 35 starts. Yeah Rodgers had really good numbers the next year (a year where defenses were behind due to the lack of training camp from the lockout), but we don't know what happens next for Love. Rodgers had 0 SB wins in his first 35 starts. As for rushing, Love and Rodgers had about the same in their first years as a starter, but Rodgers had a lot more in his second year than Love, who was dealing with knee and groin injuries. OTOH Rogers had way more sacks. He had 50 in his second year as a starter alone, whereas Love has 49 in his career so far.

The point isn't that Love is better than Rodgers at his peak, but that at the same level of experience, they are pretty comparable. We tend to compare Love against peak Rodgers, and that isn't really a fair comparison. Rodgers started out good, but not great and developed into great. Love has certainly shown flashes of great, but has mostly been just good. Will he be the next Packers HOF QB? That is unknown. It's far from certain, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Check out that "time to throw" chart in the other thread. Love is very well protected. And stats are nice, and I think Love is good enough to win with (especially if we hadn't paid him quite so much), I just was more impressed with Rodgers at the same point in time. And looking forward I think everyone would agree its unlikely Love can match Rodgers career. Hope I'm wrong on that one though.

[bobblehead]

I'll drop a super controversy bomb on everyone here. Right now today, if Rodgers were as focused on football as Love is, he would be the better QB. Rodgers mentally checked out of the game his last season in GB and the achilles rupture took the last of his true desire away. He is past 40 and thinking about a lot of things besides football. Its just the way he is wired. He isn't Brady who's entire existence and self image revolved around football and his youthful image. Brady was a unicorn. He was Jordan of the NFL in his raw desire to beat everyone on every single snap. I don't think either would even be top 10 all time in their sports without that. But I got sidetracked from my point:

Rodgers right now has as good of an arm, is similar in mobility and has a higher football IQ than Jordan Love. He just isn't overly interested in the game other than on sundays.

[Teamcheez1]

Rodgers looks marginally better than last year, but is nowhere close to the player he was when he played for the Packers

His arm looks o.k. but he doesn’t appear to have the deep ball anymore.
His mobility is significantly less. He has already taken 7 sacks and 8 QB hits. The Steelers line doesn’t help, but Rodgers can dance a little but not escape the pocket. He has 2 yards rushing. He won’t last the season if he continues to take a beating.

He is a complementary piece to the offense. This is his last year for a reason.