Davante will be gone now too...

[ThunderDan]

Wait and see hahahaha - it will prove out 100% in a few years. How long do you expect Davante to be as good as now? Whatever the answer, he won't be near as good if he ain't playing with Rodgers. Ditto that for Tonyan, MVS, and Lazard. You seriously think otherwise?

Adams is elite. In 5 years he will be a better than average WR as his career winds down.

The other 3 are guys you can pick up as mid round players or for Tonyan not even drafted at all.

[ThunderDan]

Adams is elite. In 5 years he will be a better than average WR as his career winds down.

The other 3 are guys you can pick up as mid round players or for Tonyan not even drafted at all.

That doesn’t mean they can’t have good careers. But Adams is elite. His get off is the best in the NFL. DBs can’t even get a hand on him.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

So here's what the "all-in" crowd seems to expect:

- Highest paid QB in football going into his 40's
- Highest paid WR in football going into his 30's
- Highest paid LT in the league
- Top-5 paid DT in the league
- Top-10 paid RB in the league
- Top-10 paid OLB in the league

^^^And somehow still have enough money to pay Jaire who might end up requiring making him the top paid corner in football. This was always going to be a possibility or even likelihood given the cap situation, and yet all I see from Packers Twitter and simpleton casual fans are all caps complaints and memes about how the organization has **** everything up. Will the "all in" crowd actually admit that the strategy was a failure if we don't end this 3-year run with a Super Bowl? Of course not. Just pivot to some other dumb argument where you expect to consistently field the most talented roster in football while completely ignoring the existence of this thing called the "salary cap"...

The NFL salary cap is nothing more an accounting instrument, and all accounting instruments can be cooked. Sure, cooking the “books” is sometimes frowned upon by the Southeastern Conference (SEC), but trust me on this, the salary cap falls above SEC rules and regulations.

In today’s profitable NFL economy, the salary cap merely serves as an exploitative tool for the pig owners to cut labor expenses. Cash flow is what’s really important. The Packers have $450M sitting in offshore banks earning interests faster than the speed of light. They have more than enough frogskins to sign everyone and anyone they wish. Just gotta cook the cap.

Source: Me, Tank Elf Duke, Bachelor’s of Science, Accounting/Economics, Passer of Wisconsin’s CPA exams. Only reason I ain’t no hotshot CPA is cos no pig would hire me. Without the essential accounting experience, I can’t acquire the CPA license. Might be b/c I’m a registered sex offender. When one’s flipping burgers for so long, chances are good he’s bound to eventually drive a high school nymphet home.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Ok. I keed. I may be a porn addict but I ain’t no sex offender.

Point being, the cap can always be cooked. “Cap hell” is history. Look at the NO Saints. 100M above the cap in March; fine and dandy today.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Adams is elite. In 5 years he will be a better than average WR as his career winds down.

speculation. lots of elite receivers are average after 32

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd agree, Davante might have a little bit longer shelf life because he doesn't rely as much on speed as some others, but he will fade, and paying him max money is not wise. Also, TD, I think you're both selling short our other receivers - who we either got really lucky or really skillful acquiring, and you're also failing to consider or at least greatly discounting the clear fact that Aaron Rodgers has made all of them including Adams better or seem better than they would be in any other scenario.

APB, you're absolutely correct above about the cap. Where did you ever pick up that brilliant idea of cooking the cap? Oh yeah, I remember hahahahaha. The Packers should hire you as an accountant. As I'm sure you know, corporate accountants don't need a CPA license.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

APB, you're absolutely correct above about the cap. Where did you ever pick up that brilliant idea of cooking the cap? Oh yeah, I remember hahahahaha. The Packers should hire you as an accountant. As I'm sure you know, corporate accountants don't need a CPA license.

Well, the Packers hired a personal trainer to manage their cap, so heck yeah, I could probably do a better job in that role. Would even work for a humble salary of $50k/yr.

[RashanGary]

speculation. lots of elite receivers are average after 32

I looked up the top 20 or so all time receivers. Their last 1,000 yard season usually fell at about age 32 or 33. And that was the most productive all time guys. I haven't gone through the top 100 but I would estimate the top 100 guys fell off sooner than the top 20. Adams is probably more of a top 100 all time guy than top 20.

It's not bad speculation to expect drop off in the next couple.of years if history is used as a guide.

[red]

adams is currently the 18th highest paid WR in the nfl

tyler dunne i think it was, mentioned on the radio yesterday that adams has never gotten top 10 WR money, even though he's been top 5 for years

and the packers don't want to give him top 10 money now

his words, not mone

[Harlan Huckleby]

adams is currently the 18th highest paid WR in the nfl

tyler dunne i think it was, mentioned on the radio yesterday that adams has never gotten top 10 WR money, even though he's been top 5 for years

and the packers don't want to give him top 10 money now

his words, not mone

Adams could have taken more risk on last contract. Shorter deal. Less guaranteed money, more incentives.
Maybe he and his agent made a bad decision.

It is not the obligation of the team to rewrite contracts when the player overperforms expectations.

The only situation where a team might want to reward a player for performance is when they also want to lock the guy in for a new, longer term deal. Quarterbacks approaching 40 and wide receivers approaching 30 are not good fits for that scenario.

I really can't understand cries of "unfair" when a team won't rip-up a contract.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I looked up the top 20 or so all time receivers. Their last 1,000 yard season usually fell at about age 32 or 33. And that was the most productive all time guys. I haven't gone through the top 100 but I would estimate the top 100 guys fell off sooner than the top 20. Adams is probably more of a top 100 all time guy than top 20.

It's not bad speculation to expect drop off in the next couple.of years if history is used as a guide.

I think you are agreeing with me, but in the future please clarify by beginning with "Mr. Huckleby is absolutely right again."

[red]

Adams could have taken more risk on last contract. Shorter deal. Less guaranteed money, more incentives.
Maybe he and his agent made a bad decision.

It is not the obligation of the team to rewrite contracts when the player overperforms expectations.

The only situation where a team might want to reward a player for performance is when they also want to lock the guy in for a new, longer term deal. Quarterbacks approaching 40 and wide receivers approaching 30 are not good fits for that scenario.

I really can't understand cries of "unfair" when a team won't rip-up a contract.

teams rip up contracts all the time

we've already discussed this. nfl contracts aren't really contracts at all

[King Friday]

No...they certainly are contracts. However, the system is set up to favor the teams. The Packers are hardly the only team that takes advantage of this. All 32 do.

[Harlan Huckleby]

teams rip up contracts all the time

we've already discussed this. nfl contracts aren't really contracts at all

I guess you are talking about contract extensions signed before a contract is complete.
The fact that teams sometimes do this is a choice. It does not mean "nfl contracts are not contracts." Players are most often held to their contracts and that is a fair choice.

[red]

I guess you are talking about contract extensions signed before a contract is complete.
The fact that teams sometimes do this is a choice. It does not mean "nfl contracts are not contracts." Players are most often held to their contracts and that is a fair choice.

no, i mean how teams can cut a player whenever they want in reality

i would like to know if any other team does the thing that the packers do about paying out signing bonuses and roster bonuses over the course of the year. i always thought that was up from money, due at signing, or due on all on a certain date