More Banjo - Packers vs. Lions

[Joemailman]

Rodgers 22-27, 255, 4 TD, 146 passer rating

Aaron Jones - 115 total yards, 4 TD's.

Davante Adams - 8 catches, 121 yards

DeVondre Campbell - 13 tackles, 1 INT

Eric Stokes - 2 passes defensed

Kylin Hill - 2 KO returns for 60 yards

Corey Bojorquez - 3 punts, 46.7 average, 2 inside 20

[scharpcheddar]

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm still not pleased - well, maybe a little bit hahahaha.

Our D never did really stop them. Goff messing up and poor Lion play calling at times helped in the second half, and of course, getting King OUT of there.

Our O Line still isn't what it should be either. The pass blocking was shoddy all night, and the run blocking wasn't great either - Jones did most of it on his own, as shown by the fact that Dillon just couldn't get started.

Elgton Jenkins is just mediocre at Tackle, and the Guard spot where he should be was also mediocre at best. I thought they'd be better with Patrick out, but not much if any.

Against a better team, we're gonna need better D and better O Line play.

Tonight, it literally was all Aaron(s).

[Joemailman]

O-line should get better. That's a very young line they have out here right now.

Defense will get better as Stokes plays more and King plays less. Need more out of the D-line though.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers talked about missing MVS several times. Said MVS should have had 3 TD's.

[call_me_ishmael]

Joseph Mail Man, my guy!

I was unimpressed with Jenkins at tackle too. Also underwhelmed by Gary tonight. Like is that dude ever gonna be a player or not? The time is now. Kevin King is past his prime. He looked slower than 4.8 Quintez

Niners gonna put up 40 against the Psck next week if they play like this.

[texaspackerbacker]

I've been saying, and I'm gonna keep on saying, Jenkins should be at Left Guard - the by far more important position. He was mediocre at LT, and the run game was worse and the pass protection was shoddy - again - on the inside where Jenkins should be. Runyan was a step up from Lucas Patrick, but not by much.

One of very very few on D who played good was Jonathan Garvin, and the dumbass commentators didn't say his name all night, not even on the interception that he basically caused by hitting Goff as he threw.

I doubt the Niners put up 40 on us. A bunch of their RBs are injured including Mostaert who hurt the Packers so much in the past. Garropalo may not be worse than Goff, but I doubt he is better.

Realistically, Barry is not gonna get fired during the season, so he damn well better get his head out of his ass and do some scheming to stop the short passing game.

[Upnorth]

Our second half d looked great imo. Needed blitzes for pressure which is to bad but you could see Goff had to move and started to suck.
King only gave up 2 passes (1 td) which is better I guess.
Clark pushed the pocket and Gary played pretty good. Maybe there is a chance on d. But it was the lions...
Oline was goid outside of Newman. Jenkins did give up a sack but generally kept the blind side solid, runyon was way better than Newman. When Patrick cones back we will have a good line.
Also meyers is very good. Not all pro but maybe pro Bowl.

[Teamcheez1]

Read an interesting stat. The last 5 primetime games against the Lions, the Packers have been trailing at halftime, and came back to win all of them.

[George Cumby]

It's nice to get a win, but I'm not convinced this team is good.

Talented? For sure.

Good? IDK.

[Joemailman]

On Campbell's INT Garvin was lined up on the right side of the defense and chased Goff down who had rolled out to the right to force the bad throw . Also, Rivers had forced Goff out of the pocket with some good pressure from the left side. Defense has a way to go, but they did create some pressure in the 2nd half we hadn't seen in the 1st 3 quarters.

[MadtownPacker]

That dbag QB of ours say anything arrogant?

[texaspackerbacker]

Our second half d looked great imo. Needed blitzes for pressure which is to bad but you could see Goff had to move and started to suck.
King only gave up 2 passes (1 td) which is better I guess.
Clark pushed the pocket and Gary played pretty good. Maybe there is a chance on d. But it was the lions...
Oline was goid outside of Newman. Jenkins did give up a sack but generally kept the blind side solid, runyon was way better than Newman. When Patrick cones back we will have a good line.
Also meyers is very good. Not all pro but maybe pro Bowl.

Sheeeesh, what game did you watch?

King was terrible all game. The one time he mostly had Cephus covered, even then Cephus almost caught it. When they moved him into the slot, he was giving up completions there.

The defense was better in the second half, but far from great. Over and over and over, Detroit was completing those short passes. Campbell did great, and Amos too, in terms of making quick tackles after the catch, but all of those plays, 7 or 8 yards, I don't call that great or even adequate in a closer game. If the Packers had "abandoned the run" like Detroit did in the second half, a bunch of know-nothings in here would be raising holy hell. The fact was, though, same as the previous week with the Packers, score and conditions dictated that. Just the same, the Packers D was giving up too big chunks just about every time Detroit ran it. The reason the D was not a lot worse was our offense taking a decent lead. I saw WAY too much Lowery and Lancaster, and too little of Keke and virtually none of Slaton also.

I'm withholding judgment on Gary. It kinda depends on how good the Detroit O Line is. Coming close i.e. getting pressures, and doing that only 19% of the time really doesn't cut it. Can you just imagine if Aaron Rodgers ever had the pass protection Goff had?

Newman wasn't very good, but he was no worse IMO than the rest of the line and I think better than Lucas Patrick the week before. For so many years, I've heard crap about "not giving up a sack" ..... yeah, because Rodgers was mobile enough to avoid the sacks most of the time. And with Jenkins wasted at Tackle and the rush coming over Guard instead - where Jenkins should be, it is a lot harder for the QB to get away from it. People talk about how our D gets "pressures" - 19% of the time or whatever like that's something to brag about. Opponents get pressure on our QB more like every damn play. And those other teams beat our O Line almost all the time with 3 or 4, no blitz. When we don't blitz, there is generally no pressure whatsoever, and when we do blitz, it means less people in coverage - basically a screwed if you do or screwed if you don't situation.

I honestly don't know if it is personnel or scheme that is the problem with our D. Just about every other team, though, seems to do more with less than our D does.

[texaspackerbacker]

I just heard, Aaron Jones' chain with his father's ashes was found - about 1:45am by a Packer trainer.

[Teamcheez1]

I think the O line is going through the maturation process and will only get better. How many teams have basically 4 players in new positions including 2 (or 3) rookies on the field? It’s a tall task and there are some growing pains, but generally they look decent.

The D on the other hand looks like a mess. They did improve as the game went on, but there is a lot of work to do to just play average.