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  • #31
    Didn’t Indy lose their first round pick in the Wentz deal?
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      Didn’t Indy lose their first round pick in the Wentz deal?
      Yes. Indy does not have a 1st round pick.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #33
        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        I just don’t see how he would retire when he will get a new deal with 80-120 M guaranteed. That’s a lot of money for future Rodgers’
        Most media lugs expect Aikman is going to leave the Fox booth to move to Amazon. Bradshaw is also getting up in years in the studio. Rodgers could easily move into one of those roles and make $10m guaranteed a year for as long as he wanted. Money is NOT an issue for Rodgers in any shape or form.
        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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        • #34
          Agree that Rodgers is the first domino and everything else follows from there.

          Smiths are gone for cap space.
          They'll extend Jaire and get some relief that way, and if Rodgers wants to play for GB they'll extend him. They would be crazy to carry $46M on the cap for him next year.
          If Rodgers goes, Adams is gone. If Rodgers stays, who knows.

          Cobb is probably gone; maybe they bring him back on a cheap deal but I don't think Gute or MLF really wanted him.

          Others are a coin toss, I think Rasul and Devondre are gone in FA for bigger money (which they earned).

          They can push it out into future years, but I think Russ Ball is going to be reluctant to do that... they already have that for several players (Kevin King will be on the cap for 2 more years I think) and at some point it's going to take up a big chunk of their space and make for an ugly roster.

          [FWIW I'm in favor of keeping Rodgers, and if possible extending him a year. I don't think he'll be mentally or physically capable of a 17+ game season for more than 2 years... he's already hinting at burnout/retirement and his legs clearly aren't what they were. Eventually the arm will go too. MVP-caliber QBs are rare and if you have one you keep them.
          I don't think there's enough data on Jordan Love, but I also don't think he's the answer.]

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          • #35
            Don't we get a compensatory pick for Adams, too, if he signs with someone else? Probably be a pretty decent one, I would think. 3rd, maybe? It all adds up when you're rebuilding.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Thirteen Below View Post
              Don't we get a compensatory pick for Adams, too, if he signs with someone else? Probably be a pretty decent one, I would think. 3rd, maybe? It all adds up when you're rebuilding.
              Yes, it would probably be a 3rd round pick in 2023. Question is whether they can do better by franchising Adams and trading him.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                Agree that Rodgers is the first domino and everything else follows from there.

                Smiths are gone for cap space.
                They'll extend Jaire and get some relief that way, and if Rodgers wants to play for GB they'll extend him. They would be crazy to carry $46M on the cap for him next year.
                If Rodgers goes, Adams is gone. If Rodgers stays, who knows.

                Cobb is probably gone; maybe they bring him back on a cheap deal but I don't think Gute or MLF really wanted him.

                Others are a coin toss, I think Rasul and Devondre are gone in FA for bigger money (which they earned).

                They can push it out into future years, but I think Russ Ball is going to be reluctant to do that... they already have that for several players (Kevin King will be on the cap for 2 more years I think) and at some point it's going to take up a big chunk of their space and make for an ugly roster.

                [FWIW I'm in favor of keeping Rodgers, and if possible extending him a year. I don't think he'll be mentally or physically capable of a 17+ game season for more than 2 years... he's already hinting at burnout/retirement and his legs clearly aren't what they were. Eventually the arm will go too. MVP-caliber QBs are rare and if you have one you keep them.
                I don't think there's enough data on Jordan Love, but I also don't think he's the answer.]
                The bill always comes due. If I'm the Packers, I plan on paying it off in the first year post Rodgers and totally suck so I'm picking at the top and land BJ Raji and Clay. The question is - is that this year, or is that in a couple years?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                  Didn’t Indy lose their first round pick in the Wentz deal?
                  Correct, they don't. I think they would take their 2, 3 this year and 1, 2 next year and probably call it good.

                  Harv I swear I saw 29 was named all-pro by either PFF or AP. Is that not accurate? I can't find any mention of it now so it seems wrong for sure.

                  Looking at teams that are super bowl ready with an upgrade at QB, Indy and Tenn jump off the page compared to everyone else. Denver is not desireable (new coach, new owner), Cleveland is Cleveland, etc. Pittsburgh doesn't have the offensive talent IMO.
                  Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 01-24-2022, 11:55 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Doctor Z thanking the fans of Instagram in picture with tears in. Implies to me he knows he's gone.

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                    • #40
                      Lots going on here, lots of doom and gloom.

                      Here's a couple of bright spots in my estimation.

                      The defense has a solid base of young talent, at every level, that can be built around. Big KC on the line, Gary at edge, Stokes and Alexander on the back end. That's a pretty good frame to build your house on.

                      The young OL got a shit ton of experience. Providing we get Jenkins back, I think that OL is only going to get better. I don't think Bakh comes back. I think there is something seriously wrong there.

                      There's obviously tons of concern about the offensive skill positions, and rightfully so, but there are some good pieces in place and Gute sure seems like he knows how to evaluate and draft the horses.

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                      • #41
                        Way more serious than anyone here is stating.... 2022 Packers Salary Cap Outlook: Color coded: 🔴-$38.8M: Space as of right now 🟠-$42.7M: Need to clear by March 16th (no trades) 🟡-$53.4M: Space with draft & fill roster with rookies 🔵-$63.3M: Effective space before regular season ⚠️Includes no other signings or extensions https://t.co/sAsCnsKOfG

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                        • #42
                          Roster losses as I see it

                          bye bye Rogers / Smith brothers / Amos and they still will need to restructure some contracts before signing anyone

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            Didn’t Indy lose their first round pick in the Wentz deal?

                            Wentz played 75% of his snaps so I think they did. GREAT deal for Phily; looks like a bad one for Indy
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                              Roster losses as I see it

                              bye bye Rogers / Smith brothers / Amos and they still will need to restructure some contracts before signing anyone
                              It's not that dire if Rodgers is gone. We'll extend some guys (Preston Smith, Amos, Jaire), and lower their cap value in 2022. In 2023 the cap is supposed to go way up.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                Doctor Z thanking the fans of Instagram in picture with tears in. Implies to me he knows he's gone.
                                sad

                                he's the leader of this team

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