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  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Right now, we need a speed WR, TE (if Tonyan doesn't resign), OL depth, DL, EDGE depth, and CB (if Rasul doesn't resign).

    I'd take Christian Watson, Alec Pierce, or George Pickens at WR, Tonyan at TE, a midround OL, Travis Jones at DL, a day 2 EDGE defender, Rasul and a midround CB.
    Does the Adams trade change the type of WR Packers would go for?
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    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
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    • That depends on what happens with MVS and anybody else we can get in free agency. If he doesn't get re-signed, we have a need for speed. If he does, we just need the closest we can get to Davante.
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      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Does the Adams trade change the type of WR Packers would go for?
        I think they look at drafting two WRs now by the end of day 2 (they have 5 picks). I'd still like to see a deep threat--like Watson, Pierce, or Pickens. I'd also like to see a good all around WR. If one of the top 6-7 drop (London, Burks, Williams, Wilson, Olave, or Dotson), the Packers have to consider them in round 1. In round 2 they could look at Skyy Moore, John Metchie, Jalen Tolbert, or Justyn Ross. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go EDGE, OL, and/or DL with the 2 picks in round 1 and then come back with 2 WRs on day 2. I really want to see them get a couple of the top 13-14 WRs. I think the WR group falls off after that. That could be a day 1 pick and a day 2 pick or two day 2 picks.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • I generally agree with Harv. But I don't think they'll necessarily target two "types;" I think they'll get the two best as they seem them, whatever the style.

          Having the extra picks allows for more position diversity, which I like. You can look for Kenny Clark's running mate, look for your next edge rusher, that sort of thing, while still getting a couple WR's fairly early. And now you're free to see if you can find a safety to challenge Savage, who frankly has been disappointing except for one stretch.

          But if Gutes falls in love and trades up, a lot of that is gone. I hope he doesn't do that. But then again, maybe he will and choose a future pro bowler. But in general, I'm not a fan of trading up.
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          • Looking at over the cap we are only 1 million below. That does not include Douglas.

            I kinda feel foolish going on about fa wr. Stupid 24 million credit card debt holding us back.

            I think we need wr edge dl and ol in top 5.
            I hope we don't trade up at all, as the only place we have immediate need is wr and there appears to be lots. Wr tends to be a numbers game anyway with few sure things.
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            • Man, I hope he doesn't trade up. They've got a lot of picks now and can really re-load an already solid roster.

              I really hope they find a burner who can take the top off the defense.

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                I think they look at drafting two WRs now by the end of day 2 (they have 5 picks). I'd still like to see a deep threat--like Watson, Pierce, or Pickens. I'd also like to see a good all around WR. If one of the top 6-7 drop (London, Burks, Williams, Wilson, Olave, or Dotson), the Packers have to consider them in round 1. In round 2 they could look at Skyy Moore, John Metchie, Jalen Tolbert, or Justyn Ross. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go EDGE, OL, and/or DL with the 2 picks in round 1 and then come back with 2 WRs on day 2. I really want to see them get a couple of the top 13-14 WRs. I think the WR group falls off after that. That could be a day 1 pick and a day 2 pick or two day 2 picks.
                Something that I was thinking - which is probably a pipe dream - is if they could land Fletcher Cox in FA for a reasonably affordable price to shore up the DL, then land an edge in R1. Then draft the ACL WR, and another WR, and an OL with their first five picks or so. If you can trade Love for an R2 and add another guy that you think is can be a good fit (probably another OL or DL), this team really doesn't have a lot of holes if they stay healthy.

                I agree with you that the big four positions are WR, DL, Edge and OL.

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                • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  I generally agree with Harv. But I don't think they'll necessarily target two "types;" I think they'll get the two best as they seem them, whatever the style.

                  Having the extra picks allows for more position diversity, which I like. You can look for Kenny Clark's running mate, look for your next edge rusher, that sort of thing, while still getting a couple WR's fairly early. And now you're free to see if you can find a safety to challenge Savage, who frankly has been disappointing except for one stretch.

                  But if Gutes falls in love and trades up, a lot of that is gone. I hope he doesn't do that. But then again, maybe he will and choose a future pro bowler. But in general, I'm not a fan of trading up.
                  Glad to see someone besides me who isn't on the Savage bandwagon. We could have stayed put and drafted any of 3 safeties who are all playing similar to Savage at this point.
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                    With that lawless crowd
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                    • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                      Glad to see someone besides me who isn't on the Savage bandwagon. We could have stayed put and drafted any of 3 safeties who are all playing similar to Savage at this point.
                      Packers have until May 2 to decide whether to pick up 5th year option on Savage. If the do, he will be due 8 million in 2023. Also have to decide on Gary which should be easy. Gary would earn 11 million.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • I'm still not completely in favor of a high pick for a WR. I think we maybe go after a speed guy in free agency. Valdez-Scantling would be my first choice, But Fuller was on a one year deal last year and should be available. And this Keelan Cole guy that some are talking about ran a 4.33 at the combine, so he would be suitable. Maybe even get two of the three. And maybe a well thought out 4th or 3rd round WR pick would also be good. Also a factor is what they think of Amari Rodgers. If he's still in the picture or Malik Taylor, there's less of a need. And of course, Cobb is back.
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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
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                          He learned to say nice things about the team that paid him.
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                          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Packers have until May 2 to decide whether to pick up 5th year option on Savage. If the do, he will be due 8 million in 2023. Also have to decide on Gary which should be easy. Gary would earn 11 million.
                            I say extend Gary now or next year. He is solid.
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                            • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                              I say extend Gary now or next year. He is solid.
                              Agree. Before that money gets crazy.

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                              • Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                                Agree. Before that money gets crazy.
                                They will likely look to do that, but Gary owns a sports agency. https://www.rahgary.com/sports-agency He will know better than most players what future market values for players will look like.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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