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  • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    As others have commented, it looks like the organization has woken up to the idea that fixing ST requires not only an experienced, expert ST coach, but also players who are more than spare part backups on offense or defense.

    I don't know if Sullivan played ST - I suppose as a fan I ought to have known. I did like him as a depth guy, but probably they figure they can get Shemale Jean Claude Van Damme from last year to take that on, and play ST.
    Sullivan played only a little on ST last year, after playing quite a bit the previous 2 years. He was probably deemed expendable with SJC probably playing more this year, and the trio of starting corners taking a lot of snaps in slot.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • I think Jaire-Stokes-Rasul are mostly outside corners, although you could play Jaire in the slot. Sullivan was the slot corner and was occasionally picked on there but in general not a tire fire. Not a bad player, but they can do better.
      Thing about Jaire is he was pretty close to a lockdown corner on the outside, and if you can shutdown half/third of the field that's worth a lot, plus he's on the small side with a shoulder injury, so you might not want him playing a lot of slot snaps where run support is part of the role.

      Paying Sullivan $3M would have been a luxury, they can likely get someone cheaper and as good if not better via draft or FA. I didn't love what I saw from SJC last year in preseason and his regular season snaps were almost exclusively on ST so he might not be anything more than depth. Replacing Sullivan and Henry Black (while providing competition for Savage/depth at S) would be the priorities on the back end of the D... not anywhere as urgent as fixing their WR issues, but there's a definite need there.

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      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Sullivan played only a little on ST last year, after playing quite a bit the previous 2 years. He was probably deemed expendable with SJC probably playing more this year, and the trio of starting corners taking a lot of snaps in slot.
        I wonder a bit about last year's later round guys, Shemar whoever and Isaiah McDuffie. I wonder if they're really going to be ST guys only, or if either can contribute on the field. I tend to think not - especially McDuffie, as it seems first-year ILB's can pick up the system quickly enough to contribute. But we'll see. Maybe they were already drafting with ST in mind last year, and with Oral Burks, Ty Summers, ESB, and these guys, it really was just the long snapper, Bojo-as-holder, and Maurice Drayton who were the culprits.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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        • Due to a lack of height and lack of elite speed, SJC was drafted to play slot. However, he didn't play slot much in college, so he was learning a new position. Whether he can overcome his physical shortcomings remains to be seen. He was definitely drafted as a football player, not so much as an athlete. His RAS score has to be among the lowest of anyone Gute has drafted.

          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Due to a lack of height and lack of elite speed, SJC was drafted to play slot. However, he didn't play slot much in college, so he was learning a new position. Whether he can overcome his physical shortcomings remains to be seen. He was definitely drafted as a football player, not so much as an athlete. His RAS score has to be among the lowest of anyone Gute has drafted.

            Last year was said to be a shallow draft. A bunch of seniors that should have been in the pool were allowed to go back to school for an extra year. All of those 5th year seniors will be in this years draft. So this years is supposed to be extra deep.
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            • What really surprised me was when someone posted Amari Rodgers's RAS score - it was awfully, awfully low for a guy drafted in the third round who Gutes supposedly considered in the second round.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • Stupid Jerry Jones thinks the salary cap forced him to choose how to allocate money. Doesn't that moron know that he could have simply cooked the books and kept everyone?
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                • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...879ab9f2784bb0

                  Stupid Jerry Jones thinks the salary cap forced him to choose how to allocate money. Doesn't that moron know that he could have simply cooked the books and kept everyone?
                  So that's why everyone thinks he is a poor owner. He just doesn't know about cooking the books!
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • Matt Lafleur cites the Packers having to get below the salary cap as a reason for the Davante trade.

                    What do you think of that, Tex and APB??
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                    • Andrew Brandt said people who say the salary cap is not real have never managed a salary cap.
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                      • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        Andrew Brandt said people who say the salary cap is not real have never managed a salary cap.
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                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                        • I think we all know there are ways to manipulate the cap and pay later. Nobody is saying that is not possible. But I think most of us also understand that there is a price to pay later when you do that.
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                          • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl...-me-personally

                            Matt Lafleur cites the Packers having to get below the salary cap as a reason for the Davante trade.

                            What do you think of that, Tex and APB??
                            So the various dumbasses are still whining and ranting about this hahahahaha. I'm fine with it being just me and APB (and Gutekunst and LaFleur) who see things the way they are. Any media pukes or posters spewing bogus shit either are just stirring up trouble or ignorant.

                            LaFleur said that as a very short term thing. He also said the cap wasn't gonna keep the team from keeping anybody they needed. The Packers had numerous things they could have done/still can do to decrease the number against the cap (Alexander, Amos to name a couple). These likely will be done as needed when the Packers sign free agents at WR, etc. I just heard Gutekunst say they won't be restricted about who they sign before the season.

                            Regarding Jerry Jones, he probably is one of the "poorest" or least liquid owners. His net worth is listed at $8.6 billion, but nearly $7 billion of that is the Cowboys team. Even so, they haven't exactly been having a fire sale.

                            So whine on, ignoramuses. The off-season is far from over. I'm expecting the Packers to pick up one or more quality WR FAs as well as any other bargain that might come along.
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                            • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              I think we all know there are ways to manipulate the cap and pay later. Nobody is saying that is not possible. But I think most of us also understand that there is a price to pay later when you do that.
                              I think everyone does that. The question is is it worth it? Depends on your perspective but I’d rather be great followed by a suck then just be good.

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                              • You nailed it on the tradeoff, CMI.

                                Myself, I'll take consistently good over your "great and suck" thing.
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