Official Packers Offseason/Free Agency Thread

[Fritz]

Here's my final thought on the issue. If you rebuild now, you take advantage of another GM who is "all in" and must give up too much for a 39 year old QB. Since you accept a bad year, you can tag and trade Adams as well.

Then you start to rebuild with a ton of quality picks and a good base of players.

If you stretch it out another year (and thats about all we can at this point.), you MIGHT win a ring, but then you face several years of declining results. You still have Rodgers who you had to commit to for a new contract, probably still have Adams for awhile, but you can't really keep much of anyone young. You will lose a Cory Lindsly here and a D Campbell there. You will continue to decay slowly. Like I said, the Saints from 2018 to present. They tried to hold on. They didn't win. Now they have ZERO chance of winning and lose a nice player or 2 each season. Then the stud WR becomes a malcontent because he isn't getting a shiny new contract he wants. The coach reads the writing on the wall and darts. Now you are in full rebuild without the assets.

This is my thinking, too. And I also agree that after seeing Rodgers' effups in the second half of the last two playoff games, is it worth all the arranging and kicking the can so you can try again one more time? And probably not with as good a roster as you had this past season?

I'm ready for Rodgers to say he wants to be traded.

[call_me_ishmael]

There's nothing that prevents NFL teams from guaranteeing any part of a contract ahead of time; they just don't do it, and nobody wants to be the first one to fart in church.

I think Kirk Cousins was the first (and only?) player to get a fully guaranteed multi-season contract when he signed with the Vikings. For everyone else, it's a matter of how much is guaranteed and how far in advance the guarantees kick in.

TIL. I didn't know "guaranteed salary" was a thing. Seems odd. Roster bonuses are like fake guarantees. They're guarantees - if you're on the roster - and don't count against the cap otherwise.

I guess I just assumed Kirk cousins deal was a minimum base salary and the rest was all signing bonus to get the "fully guaranteed" contract.

[Fritz]

I saw that Gutekunst did not rule out altogether keeping Z. Smith. I imagine he was just being nice. Why say the guy is gone until he's gone? I can't see many scenarios where Z is back, unless teams are afeared of his back injury and he decides to re-sign with the Pack on a "prove it" kind of deal.

[call_me_ishmael]

Like I said, the Saints from 2018 to present. They tried to hold on. They didn't win. Now they have ZERO chance of winning and lose a nice player or 2 each season. Then the stud WR becomes a malcontent because he isn't getting a shiny new contract he wants. The coach reads the writing on the wall and darts. Now you are in full rebuild without the assets.

Man, I don't know, put a good QB on that team and they are for sure a SB contender. What good player have they had to let walk? I honestly don't know but didn't they have some injuries at key spots including LT and their all-pro WR?

[ThunderDan]

Man, I don't know, put a good QB on that team and they are for sure a SB contender. What good player have they had to let walk? I honestly don't know but didn't they have some injuries at key spots including LT and their all-pro WR?

They had $4,100,000 to sign that good QB. The cap hits for 2021 were Winston $3.5 M and some how Taysom Hill $12.3 M.

For 2022 they are $100 M over the cap at the moment.

[Sparkey]

Fox Sports reporting that Rodgers wants 50 million a year.....

[Tony Oday]

Fox Sports reporting that Rodgers wants 50 million a year.....

Good he deserves it.

[Teamcheez1]

Good he deserves it.

He can get that from someone else. No thank you to a 39 year old QB.

[QBME]

Rodgers has turned into a head job.

For good or ill remains to be seen.

Unload him now for whatever price.

I'll still fly the colors.

[Upnorth]

Fox Sports reporting that Rodgers wants 50 million a year.....

If he wants to be the highest paid player then thats in the 50 mil per range thanks to mahomes.
No insider or leak required just a basic understanding of math. Bobble gives tutorials in fyi (2+2=4) I believe.

[ThunderDan]

Here is what I think after hearing everything so far.

Rodgers doesn't want to play for GB any more. I think he was really telling the truth last year when he said the relationship with the front office was damaged.

ARod is all about image and trying to be the smartest guy in the room. He took a lot of hits off the field for what he said and did. He doesn't want to look like a bad guy again.

It sounds like the Packers have agreed to almost any price to keep Rodgers. So ARod keeps upping his price until GB has to say no. He or his people have thrown out $50M now. Trust me that number will keep going higher.

ARod wants the Packers to have to say we are going to trade ARod. He doesn't want to say he doesn't want to play in GB any more.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Here is what I think after hearing everything so far.

Rodgers doesn't want to play for GB any more. I think he was really telling the truth last year when he said the relationship with the front office was damaged.

ARod is all about image and trying to be the smartest guy in the room. He took a lot of hits off the field for what he said and did. He doesn't want to look like a bad guy again.

It sounds like the Packers have agreed to almost any price to keep Rodgers. So ARod keeps upping his price until GB has to say no. He or his people have thrown out $50M now. Trust me that number will keep going higher.

ARod wants the Packers to have to say we are going to trade ARod. He doesn't want to say he doesn't want to play in GB any more.

I just wish he would declare one way or the other. I have to believe part of this whole thing is just a way to feed his ego..

[bobblehead]

This is my thinking, too. And I also agree that after seeing Rodgers' effups in the second half of the last two playoff games, is it worth all the arranging and kicking the can so you can try again one more time? And probably not with as good a roster as you had this past season?

I'm ready for Rodgers to say he wants to be traded.

I am as well, but neither of us will get our wish on this. TT did something epic and unique. Gutes won't do it without Rodgers asking. Rodgers won't ask. His legacy is GB. He wants his cake and to eat it too. They will kick the can and sign him. We will probably stretch this thing out 2 more years for him. 2 more really good years where we won't quite have enough to get there unless 1) He plays much better in the postseason and 2) Gutes somehow duplicates finding 2 guys for cheap that play like All Pros.

[bobblehead]

If he wants to be the highest paid player then thats in the 50 mil per range thanks to mahomes.
No insider or leak required just a basic understanding of math. Bobble gives tutorials in fyi (2+2=4) I believe.

Huh....I didn't actually think anyone read my gibberish!

[Upnorth]

Huh....I didn't actually think anyone read my gibberish!

I completely support the 2+2=4 statement. The rest us gibberish. Holy shit you are right twice in a day!