NEXT YEAR AARON RODGERS WILL BE

[Fritz]

Does that suggest to you that both sides see two more years of Rodgers as reasonable?

[Joemailman]

Does that suggest to you that both sides see two more years of Rodgers as reasonable?

I'd say 3 years. I read somewhere that if the Packers were to move on from Rodgers after the 2023 season, they would have 68 million of dead cap money in 2024. With the salary cap surging the next few years, that 40 million cap hit in 2024 won't seem that big. I've also heard from Silverstein that this contract is rather complicated, so there's a lot to figure out yet.

[Teamcheez1]

I see a lot of numbers floating around on cap hits, actual salary, contract length, potential dead money, etc. Those gyrations will become clearer as the details are analyzed.

Best I can tell is that $150M is guaranteed, and salaries down the road will be $50M+ or thereabouts.
So that is the going rate for a 38 year old QB who can win the NFC North? Too much money.

[call_me_ishmael]

Alright, given that the contract basically means he is committing to playing for three more years, it is time to trade Love out of fairness to him and to maximize the talent as much as possible to win a super bowl.

[Teamcheez1]

I guess AR was right when he said the 4 years at $200M was false. He’s actually going to average more than $50M a year. He can go spin the contract with brain dead McAfee today.

[Fritz]

Alright, given that the contract basically means he is committing to playing for three more years, it is time to trade Love out of fairness to him and to maximize the talent as much as possible to win a super bowl.

Wouldn't it make more sense to keep Love this year as a backup and try to develop him, then trade him next offseason? You can showcase his development in the preseason this year, have a backup, then trade him. There won't be a big market, but he'd be cheap for someone for one year, so I'd imagine someone would bite on that.

[Joemailman]

Alright, given that the contract basically means he is committing to playing for three more years, it is time to trade Love out of fairness to him and to maximize the talent as much as possible to win a super bowl.

I think they'll wait another year and hope Love lights it up in the 2022 preseason. That should increase his value. I know the QB class in the 2023 draft might be stronger than in 2022. Still, I think there are 10-15 teams in the NFL that need a QB so the market will be there next year. Plus, trading Love now makes the Packers salary cap situation worse.

[call_me_ishmael]

They need players this year and for the next two years while the window is open. They need to replace MVS. I want the pick this year so the player is a contributor for at least two of those years (presumably).

Aaron's dead cap hit tells me loud and clear that he is not going to be the QB of the future because by the time the big cap hit takes place (78M right now or something insane like that), they will need a rookie QB contract to make any of this remotely work.

Any of you cap gurus understand how they can spread out Aaron's cap hit down the line? I assume the way the contract is structured is to A) minimize cap hits during the open window and B) to ensure that they can't move on from Rodgers until after 3 years.

[texaspackerbacker]

McAfee said $186 for five years with $150 million guaranteed. That would be a cap hit in the $20s m next season and '23, 30s m in '24, and something that adds up to around $100m between '25 and '26. We should be able to count on Rodgers being the Packers QB through '24 and either stay with a high cap number or get extended again or go after '24 with a couple of years of $50m or so dead money.

Now they need to get it done with Davante, Alexander, Tonyan (near 100% chance IMO), Douglas (90% chance they keep him), and MVS (75% sure IMO they keep him too). It's all within the realm of possibility cap-wise.

[Joemailman]

In case you were wondering...if the Packers were to cut Rodgers before June 1, he would count 128,262,138 against the cap.

They have to keep him for3 years. Starting in 2025 they would save cap space by moving him. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085/

[Upnorth]

In case you were wondering...if the Packers were to cut Rodgers before June 1, he would count 128,262,138 against the cap.

They have to keep him for3 years. Starting in 2025 they would save cap space by moving him. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085/

Wow,
So if love is the real deal successor in 2025 we are spending about 100000000 on the qb position.
Lol

[call_me_ishmael]

There is no way Love is the successor at this point. They wouldn't have done a 3 year deal with Aaron if that is the case. They aren't going to pick up his 5th year option when he doesn't have playing time.

They will trade him this off-season I suspect because adding another WR, DL or OL is more beneficial towards a super bowl run for the next 3 years than a backup QB.

[texaspackerbacker]

In case you were wondering...if the Packers were to cut Rodgers before June 1, he would count 128,262,138 against the cap.

They have to keep him for3 years. Starting in 2025 they would save cap space by moving him. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085/

Good To Know hahahahaha.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's $78m dead money in one year unless they chose to do it that way. It would be more like $100m spread over '25 and '26. The much better option, though, would be to restructure/extend again after '24, have him play those two seasons, and then spread whatever dead money over several void years - assuming he doesn't play effectively for even more than five years, which I certainly wouldn't rule out.

As APB said, regardless of anything else, there's gonna be bad times after Rodgers is gone. Best we put that off as long as possible. I'm pretty sure the Packers brass sees it that way too.

[Upnorth]

I think assuming we are fucked at qb once rodgers is gone is foolish. I also think assuming we are set is foolish. We will know at the end of next season. We take his 5th year option we are set. We don't we need to draft well in the 2023 draft and hope.

[bobblehead]

I'm shocked we kept campbell. It was nice of him to take almost 33% less than he could have gotten in the open market.

The truth is though, that the window is likely closed. I just don't see ARod winning cold games in the playoffs anymore. Maybe Love is garbage and this was the only way to keep winning, but wow, the window is cracked open for 2 years and then slammed shut for 2-3 more immediately after that. I would have rather traded him for a haul, traded Adams, eaten my 1 year cap hell and moved on with a ton of capital and several very good young players.