NFL Free Agency/Offseason Thread

[HarveyWallbangers]

There are 11-12 guys that I really like in the draft. I'm kind of waiting to see how London runs at his Pro Bowl. I suspect he'll test better than expected for a big WR. I think if he runs better than 4.55 (ala Mike Evans), he'll be my #1. Right now, I have them ranked

1 Drake London
2 Treylon Burks
3a Chris Olave (I don't know how to rank these guys, Olave looked smooth at the combine; Wilson not so much, but most have Wilson higher)
3b Garrett Wilson
5 Jameson Williams (primarily because he tore his ACL late in the college season)
6 Jahan Dotson
7 Christian Watson
8 George Pickens
9 Alec Pierce
10 Skyy Moore
11 Jalen Tolbert
12 Calvin Austin

I see the first 5 as solid 1st rounders, the next 3 as early 2nd rounders who could sneak into the 1st round, Pierce and Moore as 2nd rounders, and Tolbert and Austin as late 2nd/early 3rd rounders.
Metchie tore his ACL late in the year and Ross tested very poorly at his Pro Day, so I'm not sure he's over his injuries.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Some have compared Watson to MVS, but Watson is an even better athlete than MVS. He runs better routes and has better hands--although I wouldn't call his hands good. He's a bit of a clapper. He has average to solid hands--which is an improvement on MVS.

Watson = 6'4" 208 with 4.36 40, 1.45yd split, 38 1/2" vertical, 136" broad jump (he's at 10 on the RAS scale, but hasn't run his shuttle or 3-cone)
MVS = 6'4" 206 with 4.37 40, 1.55 10yd split, 30 1/2" vertical, 124" broad jump

MVS was really raw coming out. Watson showed at the Senior Bowl that his route running is a bit more advanced, and he has more bend running his routes (which a lot of taller WRs have problems with) than MVS. MVS was more of a vertical route runner--although he's improved in the pros. Watson doesn't have great ball skills, but he has shown on tape that he can win 50/50 balls--whereas MVS seldom wins on 50/50 balls.

[Fritz]

Harv, where would you say Pickens will go? I'd like to see him in a Packer uniform - he can certainly block, and he looks awfully strong. I suppose it will depend on how the draft is going to know where the Packers will take a WR. If there's a run early they may go at #22 or even move up, or if not maybe they'll sit tight or wait until #28. I suppose they could even wait until that second rounder, though that will drive people crazy here!

On the Deshaun Watson topic, that seems another in a long historical line of stupid Cleveland Browns moves. Just off the top of my head, Baker Mayfield did not pay off, and there was that ND kid they traded up to draft (Ted passed on trading down and took Justin Harrell, I think - ugh) who never panned out at QB. Now they've given up the farm for a felon who has committed the same crime over and over and over. I just don't think he's going to come back, keep his nose clean, and be the QB he was. And frankly, he could be inconsistent. I'd take a 35 year old Russell Wilson over him any day. And like I said, he's a bad guy - not just an asshole, but someone with a track record of assualt. Maybe they looked to their rival to the east and figured, well, if the Steelers can have a sexual assaulter at QB for years, and get away with it, so can we.

[Joemailman]

The Rams and Matthew Stafford have reached agreement on a four-year, $160 million extension that includes $135 million guaranteed and should allow the veteran quarterback to finish his career in Los Angeles, sources tell ESPN's Adam Schefter.

[bobblehead]

Some have compared Watson to MVS, but Watson is an even better athlete than MVS. He runs better routes and has better hands--although I wouldn't call his hands good. He's a bit of a clapper. He has average to solid hands--which is an improvement on MVS.

Watson = 6'4" 208 with 4.36 40, 1.45yd split, 38 1/2" vertical, 136" broad jump (he's at 10 on the RAS scale, but hasn't run his shuttle or 3-cone)
MVS = 6'4" 206 with 4.37 40, 1.55 10yd split, 30 1/2" vertical, 124" broad jump

MVS was really raw coming out. Watson showed at the Senior Bowl that his route running is a bit more advanced, and he has more bend running his routes (which a lot of taller WRs have problems with) than MVS. MVS was more of a vertical route runner--although he's improved in the pros. Watson doesn't have great ball skills, but he has shown on tape that he can win 50/50 balls--whereas MVS seldom wins on 50/50 balls.

Really nice breakdown Harv. I think Watson has been shooting up boards after his showing.

[bobblehead]

Bringing Rasul back. Now I'm really liking the Adams trade. Look at it this way. We gave up adams for Rasul and Campbell plus a 1 and a 2. Well worth it.

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Bringing Rasul back. Now I'm really liking the Adams trade. Look at it this way. We gave up adams for Rasul and Campbell plus a 1 and a 2. Well worth it.

still don't have a #1 or #2 wr on the team

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z smith pulled out of his deal with the ravens

don't know if it was his decision not to sign or he failed his physical, but he's still a free agent

[Joemailman]

Rams trading Robert Woods to Titans for 2023 6th round pick. Woods tore ACL in November.

[Bretsky]

Gotta think the Texans are rebuilding, right ? Go get their WR

[texaspackerbacker]

Bringing Rasul back. Now I'm really liking the Adams trade. Look at it this way. We gave up adams for Rasul and Campbell plus a 1 and a 2. Well worth it.

Not really. Extending Adams would have reduced his cap hit. Douglas and Campbell were easily within reach anyway, especially where each maybe took slightly less to stay in Green Bay.

You're right in liking the trade, though, as signing a FA WR or two should leave us about as good plus we have the two high draft picks. That plus the idea that Rodgers might actually do better without Adams like in the 7 straight games we won while Adams was out injured.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not really. Extending Adams would have reduced his cap hit. Douglas and Campbell were easily within reach anyway, especially where each maybe took slightly less to stay in Green Bay.

You're right in liking the trade, though, as signing a FA WR or two should leave us about as good plus we have the two high draft picks. That plus the idea that Rodgers might actually do better without Adams like in the 7 straight games we won while Adams was out injured.

It wouldn’t have reduced it to zero.

[Joemailman]

Falcons trading Matt Ryan to Colts for a 3rd round pick.

[Joemailman]

Z Smith headed to Minnesota for a visit.

[call_me_ishmael]

Here's my prediction: Cleveland can't find a trade for Baker, they eventually cut him, and he signs with Pittsburgh and becomes the next long term starter there and a very good player. Maybe not a super bowl type QB but the next tier down.