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  • #76
    to me, something doesn't smell right

    i don't buy for a second that the packers offered to match what oakland was giving. we did not need to trade him, and we sure as hell didn't need to trade him jst 2 days after he said he wasn't gonna play under the franchise tag

    i also have to wonder what this does to rodgers. he signed a very team friendly deal in part to get the adams deal done. does he say fuck it now and just retire?

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    • #77
      Adams is a great receiver and was a great Packer. He has every right to go play wherever he wants.

      I think this will absolutely help Rodgers become a better QB. Just as Favre improved once Sharpe was taken away, Rodgers will now have to become more focused on executing MLFs offense instead of relying too heavily on one player. It will force Rodgers to actually go through progressions and not simply toss it up to his boy when the chips are on the line.
      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by red View Post
        to me, something doesn't smell right

        i don't buy for a second that the packers offered to match what oakland was giving. we did not need to trade him, and we sure as hell didn't need to trade him jst 2 days after he said he wasn't gonna play under the franchise tag

        i also have to wonder what this does to rodgers. he signed a very team friendly deal in part to get the adams deal done. does he say fuck it now and just retire?
        Rodgers is very close to Adams. It is clear to me now that the last dance thing was more about Adams than Rodgers.

        Rodgers likely knew this was in the cards a long time ago.
        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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        • #79
          theres a guy on espn right now that keeps saying the packers fucked this up

          adams was franchised. the raiders then should have signed him to an offer sheet. at that point, green bay can either match it and keep him or they let him leave and the raiders would have to give them 2- first round picks

          so no, the packers did not offer to match the deal, if they did, he would be a packers because thats what the rules say

          packer payroll guy demorvski just got put in his place after being told point blank what the rules are after trying to say the packers offered more

          did the front office just panic or what?

          While NFL free agency is around the corner, teams can get ahead and tag key players with the franchise tag.


          non-exclusive tags allow players to negotiate with other teams. If they receive an offer, their current team has the opportunity to match. If they opt not to match the offer, they’re entitled to receive two first-round draft picks in exchange.

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          • #80
            Super interesting, Red.

            Maybe it was verbal and Adams flat out refused. And Raiders said we will pull out if it’s 2 firsts? Then you’re stuck w/ an even worse scenario.

            To me Adams leaving is more about Love not being the guy long term…

            But as I said above / opinions are like assholes… we all have one and they stink.
            The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
            Vince Lombardi

            "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by red View Post
              theres a guy on espn right now that keeps saying the packers fucked this up

              adams was franchised. the raiders then should have signed him to an offer sheet. at that point, green bay can either match it and keep him or they let him leave and the raiders would have to give them 2- first round picks

              so no, the packers did not offer to match the deal, if they did, he would be a packers because thats what the rules say

              packer payroll guy demorvski just got put in his place after being told point blank what the rules are after trying to say the packers offered more

              did the front office just panic or what?

              https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...-you-need-know
              Maybe the Packers preferred 1st and 2nd this year to a 1st each of the next 2 years.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                Super interesting, Red.

                Maybe it was verbal and Adams flat out refused. And Raiders said we will pull out if it’s 2 firsts? Then you’re stuck w/ an even worse scenario.

                To me Adams leaving is more about Love not being the guy long term…

                But as I said above / opinions are like assholes… we all have one and they stink.
                Interesting point.

                I've been feeling for over a year that Adams should move on to a bigger market (based on many interviews he gave in the offseason before last draft). When I heard he was best friends with Carr and I thought about that division and the Raiders WR room as well as Carr's strengths -- it seemed like a perfect fit. Plus closer to home for Adams and a bigger stage. And he already bought a home in Vegas .......it was a just a matter of time. I think everyone (even AR) is happy. They will get MVS and Tonyan back for continuity in the offense and then no doubt a draft pick and an FA (at some point).
                Last edited by Jaire; 03-18-2022, 08:31 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  March 4: Reports that Davante Adams has bought house in Las Vegas
                  March 8: Packers place franchise tag on Adams
                  March 15: Adams says he won't play under franchise tag
                  Match 17: Packers trade Adams to Las Vegas

                  Any chance Raiders were tampering? Did they tell Adams to refuse to work out a deal with Packers, and they'll work out a trade?
                  No tampering.

                  But Adams best friend, Derek Carr, was very open that tampering does not apply to players and Carr convinced Adams that they have a great WR core (and they now do). I think Adams has the MOST value with the Raiders. It's a win win. No WR is worth a 1 and a 2 and 30 million. This imo was the best case scenario with Adams this offseason.

                  The offense was anemic against San Fran because that is an excellent front four and we were without Jenkins, Bakh, Tonyan, MVS, and Dillon and had a gimpy RT switched to LT. They still should have won but for special teams, which demonstrates the depth of this team as well as HOW GREAT this defense has become. So glad we are keeping the defense together. IF the offense gets healthy, they don't need Adams (as was demonstrated in 2020 when Adams was out). They do need some fresh talent and depth on offense and have the picks to do it. I am very excited for this season.

                  (Adams wanted out a long time ago. I loved his play but also thought his time in GB was over. I think everyone won in this trade though the Raiders gave up an extra second or first.)

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    The Packers were 7-0 with Adams out of the lineup over the last 3 seasons.

                    Rodgers clearly can win without him, and maybe plays a lot smarter without him.

                    Enough said.
                    This.

                    Exactly. Just need to get some depth and STAY healthy. I feel like we just won the lottery!!!!

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                    • #85
                      Sad to see DA go, wish him the best.
                      He's in a buzzsaw of a division; he'll get paid a LOT of money so his grandkids' grandkids will be fine. Good on him and his family.

                      Not sure he'll get to a AFCCG, much less a SB. It's the Raiders, and they just gave up a R1 and R2 for the chance to sign a 29 year old WR to a highest-paid-in-the-market contract. He's a great receiver and GB will really miss his production, but $28M is a lot of production to create to get appropriate value. Rodgers-to-Adams was something special and they are going to miss that. I think it explains keeping Cobb (even at a lower number, and over guys like Billy Turner) to help what will be a young and revamped WR room. I was hoping they'd make two WR picks in the draft, now I'd be shocked if they didn't. Bringing in another veteran WR is an option as well, I don't think OBJ would be the choice and Landry doesn't wow me. The FO will figure something out -- at this point I'm willing to give Gute the benefit of the doubt given he's made more good moves than bad -- but MLF will have his work cut out for him getting new WRs up to speed and having Rodgers overcoming him trust issues. I'd expect a slow start to the season for the offense, and one where they lean on the run game a bit more.

                      Agree with Red something is fishy about GB saying they would match, although if Adams' agents are confirming it maybe it's true.

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                      • #86
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                        • #87
                          And more confirmation this was Adams. Adams team confirmed that the Packers offered him more money.



                          "Final thought (for now) on the Davante Adams trade: His agents Frank Bauer and Kenny Chapman confirm that the #Packers offered more money than the contract he’ll sign in Las Vegas.

                          Simply, it was his lifelong dream to be with the #Raiders." ~ Rapoport

                          It was fun having Adams. He joins the all time great receivers we've been so lucky to have. GB will find the next one soon. R-E-L-A-X

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Transcript from a March 10 meeting between Mark Murphy, Russ Ball, Brian Gutekunst, and Matt LeFleur:

                            Mark Murphy: "Okay, we didn't get to the SB because our special teams sucked and Rodgers won't throw to anybody but Davante Adams. We've hired one of the best ST coaches in the business, so we got that part solved. Now, how can we get Aaron to stop throwing the ball only to Davante?"

                            Brian Gutekunst: " Well, I've got an idea on that..."

                            In all seriousness, though, we have to remember that these players are people with jobs, and compensation is important but not everything. Adams had a chance to make stupid money at his profession, and wanted to be able to live where he wanted to live - closer to home - and to raise his family there. He wanted to work with one of his best friends. So even if Green Bay would've matched the offer, and by all accounts they were willing to, if you were Adams those other factors would be important. And while it's true he may have had a better chance to get to a SB with Green Bay, he was with the Pack for what, eight years, and never made it. The NFL is fickle. Raising your kids in a place you - and your wife - want to live counts for a lot.

                            I think Davante Adams was a fantastic receiver, just fantastic. I enjoyed watching him grow and develop in Green Bay, and he seems like a stand-up guy. Nobody worked harder than he did at his craft, and he didn't rock the boat. Seems like a family guy. And I think he may have been the second or third-best receiver I've ever seen in Green Bay, maybe better than Lofton and pretty close to Sterling Sharpe. I really loved watching him run routes and catch the ball. Great run.

                            But this does help the Packers in the sense that yes, they really did have to figure out how to get Rodgers to stop just throwing to Davante Adams. And it wasn't just the playoff game. There were several instances in which Rodgers in press conferences or interviews would talk about just getting the ball to Te. I know you want your best players to have the ball, I do, but at times it hurt the team to have Rodgers not taking what was there but forcing the issue. Problem is, if the back-shoulder wasn't there, it didn't work so well.

                            It also helps of course with the cap. News this morning is that now Rasul Douglas will be back, and there will still be about twelve million or so under. That means maybe Tonyan can come back, and the team can find a vet WR to help take up the slack.

                            It also puts pressure on Gutekunst to draft a receiver early, and to get someone who can make an immediate impact. Probably two.

                            But the last time I thought Gute absolutely had to draft at a certain position, he didn't at all. So who knows.

                            I am happy for Davante Adams, loved him as a Packer and wish him well. I am glad too for the good compensation - a first and second is pretty damn good, I think - and i hope Gutekunst uses those resources wisely.
                            Family Guy depicts a dysfunctional family that includes, among others, a fat Irish, a gay infant and a dog that engages in interspecial sexual relations. Funny as hell, but I doubt the Fresno Freak would want his family to be anything like the Griffins.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                              Adams is a great receiver and was a great Packer. He has every right to go play wherever he wants.

                              I think this will absolutely help Rodgers become a better QB. Just as Favre improved once Sharpe was taken away, Rodgers will now have to become more focused on executing MLFs offense instead of relying too heavily on one player. It will force Rodgers to actually go through progressions and not simply toss it up to his boy when the chips are on the line.
                              Yup.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                                Adams is a great receiver and was a great Packer. He has every right to go play wherever he wants.

                                I think this will absolutely help Rodgers become a better QB. Just as Favre improved once Sharpe was taken away, Rodgers will now have to become more focused on executing MLFs offense instead of relying too heavily on one player. It will force Rodgers to actually go through progressions and not simply toss it up to his boy when the chips are on the line.
                                This like 100% true. Great post
                                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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