Gute - we love you this 2022 Draft

[call_me_ishmael]

I guess though if you look at it as they drafted a situational ILB and then traded the second pick paired with their second pick (bad value) to move up to get a guy they liked. I'm not crazy about the positional value they got in exchange for Davante.

I am confused why they didn't trade back into R1. I would be shocked if none of the teams below them would take the comp they ultimately gave up. It would have been nice to get the extra year out of the deal since they gave up so much.

[MadScientist]

I'm worried about this draft - I really like it. I think the first 3 picks will pan out and be terrific players, Tom and Rhyan will develop into core OL players, and ST will have a big shot of talent so they may just finally stop sucking donkey balls.

[Joemailman]

I guess though if you look at it as they drafted a situational ILB and then traded the second pick paired with their second pick (bad value) to move up to get a guy they liked. I'm not crazy about the positional value they got in exchange for Davante.

I am confused why they didn't trade back into R1. I would be shocked if none of the teams below them would take the comp they ultimately gave up. It would have been nice to get the extra year out of the deal since they gave up so much.

I think it was Aaron Nagler who said Packers were trying to trade back into round 1 but couldn't get it done. Vikings had the 32nd pick. My guess is Vikings said you can have 34 but not 32.

[SudsMcBucky]

I hope I do reverse jinx it! The last time I hated a pick was Clay Matthews and TT shut me up so good, I didn't complain about a pick for like 15 years. I hope Gute shuts me up with Walker and Watson.

You're not alone. I loathed the Rashan Gary pick, but my being wrong on that one was negated by the Love trade-up & pick. Therefore, I will still reserve the right to bitch. However, with the 2022 draft, I hated the #22 pick, loved the #28 pick and then the trade-up for Watson, which righted the wrong at 22. So, with the totality of it all, including the Tom pick, I really like this draft a lot.

[run pMc]

I think it was Aaron Nagler who said Packers were trying to trade back into round 1 but couldn't get it done. Vikings had the 32nd pick. My guess is Vikings said you can have 34 but not 32.

I heard this also (forget where) that Minny didn't want to give them a shot at giving their pick the 5th year option.

[texaspackerbacker]

I heard that same thing about the 5th year option - on one of the YouTube podcasts.

I tend to agree as we get a few days past this draft that it's way more good than bad. We got a probably superstar in Watson, a possible superstar in Wyatt, a talented guy at a position we didn't need in Walker who as time goes by, we could be thankful for too. We got a three O Linemen - whether I liked it or not hahahaha - because we lost Turner, Patrick, and Kelly. Just for the sake of quantity, we're gonna keep around 9 of them. We didn't get a TE or a Edge Rusher early or a Safety who has much chance of playing Safety because the powers that be figured we didn't need them - whether some others in here or the media thought we needed them hahahaha.

Nothing has been said about the salary cap lately with the draft and all. The Packers still have money, though. I'm thinking they still pick up a mid-range FA or two (not just UDFAs) between now and training camp, especially a back up Safety. Possibly another WR but I doubt it since we drafted like we did.

All in all, Gutekunst gets my approval with a possibility of love too.

[Travbrew]

In his post-draft press conference, Doubs just came out and matter of factly stated that he ran 4.53 at his Pro Day, so I like the fact he didn't sugarcoat it. Then, he said the time is the time, but I know that I can take the top off the defense.

He pronounced his last name as Dobbs (not Dubbs).

Should we call him "Ronnie?"

[Cobra Kai]

Should we call him "Ronnie?"

YES!

[Upnorth]

I would like to know what wist thinks about this draft.

[Fritz]

Interesting article about the RAS of the players the Packers picked. They appear, historically, to go for high-RAS players in rounds one and two, but in round three, they have chosen some really low-RAS players over the years (Sternberger, Deguara, Amari Rodgers). All in all, though, apparently the Packers like more athletic players than most teams do - other teams seem to be more interested in the tape and whether someone is a player and not just an athlete.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2022/5/2/23053881/packers-draft-classes-by-ras-athleticism-average-weighted-2022-nfl-draft-brian-gutekunst

[HarveyWallbangers]

Interesting article about the RAS of the players the Packers picked. They appear, historically, to go for high-RAS players in rounds one and two, but in round three, they have chosen some really low-RAS players over the years (Sternberger, Deguara, Amari Rodgers). All in all, though, apparently the Packers like more athletic players than most teams do - other teams seem to be more interested in the tape and whether someone is a player and not just an athlete.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/b...rian-gutekunst

Ironically, the Packers have whiffed on a lot of those 3rd round picks that weren't athletic. Maybe they should just stick with drafting athletes in round 3.

[Joemailman]

Ironically, the Packers have whiffed on a lot of those 3rd round picks that weren't athletic. Maybe they should just stick with drafting athletes in round 3.

Well, Oren Burks was an athlete, and that didn't work either. . Ww'll see how Rhyan will do, who is an athlete. Rhyan is the first offensive lineman the Packers have drafted in the 3rd round since Jason Spitz in 2006.

[Fritz]

I wonder if anyone thinks that Tariq Carpenter could become a good player. I read that he's a human missile but is a tweener at 230 pounds. I was reminded of James Harrison a bit.

And even if he's just a special teams ace, that's a good pick. This team needs hitters (who doesn't?).

[run pMc]

I wonder if anyone thinks that Tariq Carpenter could become a good player. I read that he's a human missile but is a tweener at 230 pounds. I was reminded of James Harrison a bit.

And even if he's just a special teams ace, that's a good pick. This team needs hitters (who doesn't?).

I don't think he's got the agility to play man on the pro level, but I do think he can probably play short zones and close to the LOS almost like a moneybacker type in a pinch. James Harrison was shorter and a workout freak, this guy is built differently. I think he's Oren Burks II but less agile and with better instincts. He'll be fun on punt and kickoff teams and hopefully not see the field on defense except for when GB is up 3 scores with 4 minutes to play.

Not sure you'd want him playing the Henry Black role; I think they are ditching the 3 safety look in favor of using 2 ILBs (Campbell and Walker). Seems like they are going to put him in the ILB room first but I could see him getting a few reps at box safety. You never know with these guys, but R7 is a fine spot to take a flyer on an athletic ST player with some upside to develop. If he becomes a Core ST player and plays on all/most ST lineups it's a good pick -- that's around 10-20 snaps a game.

[run pMc]

Well, Oren Burks was an athlete, and that didn't work either. . Ww'll see how Rhyan will do, who is an athlete. Rhyan is the first offensive lineman the Packers have drafted in the 3rd round since Jason Spitz in 2006.

Interesting about Spitz, but you're right. I don't think Rhyan is the project Burks was. Rhyan has a higher floor/lower ceiling imo, but also a much better chance and panning out.