Gute - we love you this 2022 Draft

[Jaire]

After letting the draft settle for a few days:

The team has no holes. That's really a first since 1997.

I like the three receivers they got. Watson's the highest pick for WR in 20 years. The Pack usually "overdraft" their guys (Jordy, Cobb, Jennings -- the exception was Adams but that was superdeep at WR). I had him tagged as a "Packer type" in the mold of their previous picks. Doubs was a value pick, another Packer type-- that was not the case with the 2018 picks when they drafted a bunch of guys in somewhat desperation. This draft was deep and fell right for GB. Even Toure looks good; we'll see if he can beat press converage.

My favorite draft of Gute's era: though I would have preferred Johnson or Ebiketie, I understand the Walker pick and I concede he was better value for what Joe Barry wants. And I am happy they spent a first on his type rather than undersized Shazier or Devine Bush: I really was anxious both those years when the Packers were linked to those two. It seems the Pack has has a shortlist of ILBs they like in the first round each year. Walker I think is getting underrated on this forum, as he was predraft. They made him play very disciplined football at Georgia: he's a very safe pick imo and his best days are ahead. Not just that but Barry if anyone has the best chance to make him shine. On top of that the oline is finally rebuilt and restocked: that was my number ONE concern the last three years; number TWO was DL.

Not trying to be a Homer, but Gute filled out the holes that I have been almost screaming about for the last three years, and did so with very good prospects. No reaches, all very safe players imo when you consider football character which is pretty huge with this club. Age is the only complaint, but it's a weird class that way.


......Just noticed we picked six of Rob Rang's top 75 as well as his diamond (Doubs) -- lots of sleeping on this class. It was a super deep (covid) draft. And GB took advantage. I like it better than the Ravens, whose draft is getting overhyped. Nice too for once to steal one of their guys which they have done to us in the past

[Upnorth]

Jaire I agree with that, with the caveat of watson and doubts not being a bust, and assume safety depth isn't a need.

The problem is we can only realistically expect 2 starters and hope for 4.
But this draft did our obvious needs, and then some.

Oh wait I forgot about tariq carpenter so I guess we got safety depth....

[Jaire]

Jaire I agree with that, with the caveat of watson and doubts not being a bust, and assume safety depth isn't a need.

The problem is we can only realistically expect 2 starters and hope for 4.
But this draft did our obvious needs, and then some.

Oh wait I forgot about tariq carpenter so I guess we got safety depth....

I am very confident in the trio they grabbed at WR. They are good at drafting WR, and these are good fits with (football and otherwise) super high character: ambitious, disciplined, hungry and talented.* The exception was last year with Amari Rodgers: I thought they got too cute and drafted a smaller version of Cobb, who had a shortened career because of size and style of play. They really parted from Gute's draft profile, as well as MLF's.

Normally I'd expect four starters from this draft because of our extra capital; however, this is the deepest draft I remember. It's by far my favorite draft since I started following in 2009. Really confident in these picks; it's like a convergence of all the best things in a typical GB draft. Of course, any draft pick can fail. I just don't see it with these picks. The only guy I question is Enagbare: with him I wonder why he fell and they moved down: not like they ran that card up.

* The Packers' formula at WR is only imitated by a few clubs. Rather strange. It makes sense that other clubs don't imitate the Steelers, but the Packers' mold is a bit easier to follow imo.

[Joemailman]

I am very confident in the trio they grabbed at WR. They are good at drafting WR, and these are good fits with (football and otherwise) super high character: ambitious, disciplined, hungry and talented.* The exception was last year with Amari Rodgers: I thought they got too cute and drafted a smaller version of Cobb, who had a shortened career because of size and style of play. They really parted from Gute's draft profile, as well as MLF's.

Normally I'd expect four starters from this draft because of our extra capital; however, this is the deepest draft I remember. It's by far my favorite draft since I started following in 2009. Really confident in these picks; it's like a convergence of all the best things in a typical GB draft. Of course, any draft pick can fail. I just don't see it with these picks. The only guy I question is Enagbare: with him I wonder why he fell and they moved down: not like they ran that card up.

* The Packers' formula at WR is only imitated by a few clubs. Rather strange. It makes sense that other clubs don't imitate the Steelers, but the Packers' mold is a bit easier to follow imo.

Actually Rodgers is a bigger version of Cobb by about 20 pounds. At least based on last year's weight. (I guess Cobb is a bit taller). Both players were a divergence from what Packers usually look for. Cobb even more so than Rodgers. Both players were brought in to provide a missing role in the offense. Don't write Rodgers' obit yet. I think he'll have a much bigger role in the offense this year.

[run pMc]

Slot receivers often have weird RAS scores. I'm surprised the agility scores are that low though.

[Jaire]

That weight isn't right (just like Jones' weight is higher than he really is). He just looks smaller than Cobb on the field but I haven't seen them both in person. Cobb seems to have broader shoulders.

[Upnorth]

I'm allaboard the arod (wr) train this year as well. I think we are taking the negatives of the special teams and applying it to him. He doesn't block for himself, he doesn't kick.

I hope he gets 600 or so yards this year.

[texaspackerbacker]

It's gonna come down to Amari making the team OR Toure, who I've heard good things about, OR my personal favorite, the much maligned Malik Taylor. That's assuming the top five, Watson, Lazard, Watkins, Doubs, and Cobb all make the team. I'm sure the detractors are gonna detract, but unless Amari has a whole lot of ability that we just haven't seen, I'd rather have Malik. Toure can go to the Practice Squad.

[Jaire]

They kept seven in 2018. Think they could keep seven this year, esp with Watkins and Cobb likely not making it through. Another transitiion year.

[Joemailman]

They kept seven in 2018. Think they could keep seven this year, esp with Watkins and Cobb likely not making it through. Another transitiion year.

I think they can keep 7 if they only keep 2 QB's or only 8 OL.

[Upnorth]

I think they can keep 7 if they only keep 2 QB's or only 8 OL.

I bet they only have 12 and love @ qb. That's sop here. My wr would be lazard, watson, watkins, rodgers, taylor, doubs, Cobb. At least that's how I hope it works out.

[texaspackerbacker]

One of the media pukes was on Macafee today saying he thinks the Packers will be in the market for the remaining big name FA WRs. I pretty much hope he's wrong.

[cheesner]

https://heavy.com/sports/green-bay-packers/jarvis-landry-beckham-jones-rodgers-browns/

Rappaport. Misleading title. I thought it meant that the Packers were pursuing the WRs. But if you read it, it is what Rap "expects" them to do. And he never really impressed me with his football knowledge or understanding of individual teams.

[run pMc]

Rappaport is looking at the top of the depth chart but not the roster - they have a ton of WRs at the moment so they won't add another unless it's a very clear upgrade.
They aren't going to dump Amari or Doubs for Jarvis Landry unless he's willing to sign for peanuts.
I think they'll keep plugged into the market, but I doubt they'll be buyers. They need to extend Jaire first.

Also: I think they are very committed to making sure most of the WRs can contribute to ST, so bringing in another vet is hardly a lock.

[jklowan]

Rappaport is looking at the top of the depth chart but not the roster - they have a ton of WRs at the moment so they won't add another unless it's a very clear upgrade.
They aren't going to dump Amari or Doubs for Jarvis Landry unless he's willing to sign for peanuts.
I think they'll keep plugged into the market, but I doubt they'll be buyers. They need to extend Jaire first.

Also: I think they are very committed to making sure most of the WRs can contribute to ST, so bringing in another vet is hardly a lock.

Why would OB leave the Rams, that is not happening, Jarvis Landry is a Slotish type, we have Cobb and Rodgers for that role. So I don't think that happens.

I'm not sure how much Jones has left as he seems to miss at least 5 games a season for the last few years, not sure that risk is worth it.

The one receiver I am hoping they bring in is W Fuller, he would be cheap and is still young. He also has the injury history but I would like one more vet for insurance and he seems like a good fit and there has been interest in the past by Green Bay.

Unless the Giants decide to cut ties with Sheppard then I would look there as well, maybe even give up a 6th or 7th rounder for his services.