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Lazard is the only one with Rodgers trust. Watkins is a vet so he can figure it out pretty quick, but he was available for a reason. Nobody knows what he brings now, or how long he can stay in the field. Rookies have never produced with Rodgers as qb. If Watkins gets 500 yards, that would be the best rookie under Rodgers.Last edited by MadScientist; 07-21-2022, 10:54 AM.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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I assume you meant Watson. At any rate, not really true. MVS had 581 yards as a rookie though he only started 10 games. And St. Brown was getting the ball late in the season after he returned from an injury. MVS and St. Brown combined for over 900 yards as rookies. Rodgers will likely focus on the vets early, but if Watson and Doubs progress, Rodgers will involve them in the offense.Originally posted by MadScientist View PostLizard is the only one with Rodgers trust. Watkins is a vet so he can figure it out pretty quick, but he was available for a reason. Nobody knows what he brings now, or how long he can stay in the field. Rookies have never produced with Rodgers as qb. If Watkins gets 500 yards, that would be the best rookie under Rodgers.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
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I'm going to go on record now with calling this Gutes best draft OUTSIDE the first 2 rounds.
Rhyan, Tom, Walker is a great OL haul. I think all 3 become NFL starters. Walker is a health concern, but worth it as a 7th.
Enagbare tested poorly but had success against top SEC talent.
Rodgers will likely make Doubs or Toure look like a good pick.
I can't recall liking an entire draft as much as I like this one to be honest....Quay Walker aside who wasn't even on my radar at all coming in. He was however part of an all time great college defense.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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That Rodgers trust thing is overrated. Anybody who shows he can run routes and catch passes will quickly get Rodgers' trust. Practice will be more meaningful this season. Without Adams, Rodgers will quickly develop trust in one, two, more, or all of the WRs. I fully expect Watson to have over a thousand receiving yards and a helluva lot on runs also. Doubs, Watkins, Lazard, whoever, Rodgers will throw to whoever is open - as he did the weeks Adams was out - with great success. I expect or at least hope that they won't overuse Watkins, and his injury proneness will be a thing of the past.Originally posted by MadScientist View PostLizard is the only one with Rodgers trust. Watkins is a vet so he can figure it out pretty quick, but he was available for a reason. Nobody knows what he brings now, or how long he can stay in the field. Rookies have never produced with Rodgers as qb. If Watkins gets 500 yards, that would be the best rookie under Rodgers.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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No hits outside top 2? Jon Runyan Jr.? MVS wasn't a homerun but I'd say he was a hit for being a R5 pick.
Watkins has lost a step but if he can stay healthy he's still a decent player. The lights aren't too bright for him, and his route running isn't bad. He might not make the roster or he might be WR1 in Week 1.
I don't expect a lot from the rookies until mid-season, so my expectations of their production is much lower than Tex's. Mostly I want to see the the rookies get better each week and hope they make a big jump next year. They will need to make contributions this year but it's going to be the vets leading the way: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins. Interesting they all essentially have one year contracts; opens the door for the rookies next year to emerge.
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Well that's the kiss of death for him now, isn't it. It's just a question of how soon he gets cut.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostSounds like the receiving corpse had a good day on the first day of camp. Big catches by Lazard, Winfree and Doubs. Good day from Rodgers.
Rodgers singled out Winfree as a guy with talent who could make a case this year.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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Winfree has been decent, but at this point I would say Toure is ahead of him in the passing game. I don't know where the 2 players rank on special teams.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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It sounds like Watkins is likely to make the roster, which means Watkins, Lazard, Cobb, Watson, Doubs, appear to be locks at this point, with Rodgers, Winfree and Toure fighting for 1 spot, if we assume they keep 6 WR.
I think Rodgers has the edge on the basis of his draft status and it sounds like he's having a decent camp, plus there's a chance Bisaccia can get some ST value from him (or else he wouldn't be practicing at KR and PR).
My guess is Malik Taylor and Ishmael Hyman are cuts, and Winfree and Toure cut and signed to the PS.
I suppose it's possible they keep 7 WR, but it would be at the expense of another position (TE? CB/S? OL?)
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I think they can find room for 7 WR's because they will likely keep just 2 QB's and 3 RB's. They may want to keep that many with Watkins, Cobb and Lazard all unrestricted free agents. Am Rodgers isn't going anywhere, so if there is a 7th it will be between Winfree and Toure.Originally posted by run pMc View PostIt sounds like Watkins is likely to make the roster, which means Watkins, Lazard, Cobb, Watson, Doubs, appear to be locks at this point, with Rodgers, Winfree and Toure fighting for 1 spot, if we assume they keep 6 WR.
I think Rodgers has the edge on the basis of his draft status and it sounds like he's having a decent camp, plus there's a chance Bisaccia can get some ST value from him (or else he wouldn't be practicing at KR and PR).
My guess is Malik Taylor and Ishmael Hyman are cuts, and Winfree and Toure cut and signed to the PS.
I suppose it's possible they keep 7 WR, but it would be at the expense of another position (TE? CB/S? OL?)I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Let Cobb graduate to being some sort of coach if 3, 4, or more of the rookies and other young guys outplay him. I thought originally too that maybe Watkins would be cut, as they could do it without much of any dead money, etc. But supposedly he is looking really good and fitting in good in Green Bay. Keep him and if he does end up getting hurt, use some of that nice depth it's looking like we have now at WR.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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They keep 7 knowing that Cobb and Watkins will both play about 6 games each.Originally posted by run pMc View PostIt sounds like Watkins is likely to make the roster, which means Watkins, Lazard, Cobb, Watson, Doubs, appear to be locks at this point, with Rodgers, Winfree and Toure fighting for 1 spot, if we assume they keep 6 WR.
I think Rodgers has the edge on the basis of his draft status and it sounds like he's having a decent camp, plus there's a chance Bisaccia can get some ST value from him (or else he wouldn't be practicing at KR and PR).
My guess is Malik Taylor and Ishmael Hyman are cuts, and Winfree and Toure cut and signed to the PS.
I suppose it's possible they keep 7 WR, but it would be at the expense of another position (TE? CB/S? OL?)The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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