Off-season 2023 Banjo

[Joemailman]

I'm kind of interested to see what Bo Melton can do. I liked him in the draft last year. I had him in my top 20 WRs, but he went in the 7th round to Seattle as the 26th WR taken. He had a really good preseason with Seattle, but they put him on the practice squad all year--until the Packers signed him. I think he can be used in the jet motion role that Tyler Ervin was in a couple of years ago. Watson was in that role in 2022, but they'll likely want to put him outside more. Melton is 5'11" 189 and ran a 4.34 40 with a 4.10 shuttle, 6.98 3 cone, 38" vert, 121" broad, and 18 bench reps at the combine last year for a 9.23 RAS.

I wonder if the Packers had him rated higher than Toure. The Seahawks took Melton early in the 7th round right after the Packers took Tariq Carpenter. The Packers then drafted Toure 30 picks later.

[run pMc]

I wonder if the Packers had him rated higher than Toure. The Seahawks took Melton early in the 7th round right after the Packers took Tariq Carpenter. The Packers then drafted Toure 30 picks later.

They brought Toure in for a pre-draft visit, but they obviously liked Melton or they wouldn't have poached him from SEA and kept him around.
I didn't think he played as fast/quick as he tested but I'll have to go back and watch him again. Agree he did some good things in preseason and along with Toure could certainly push for a bigger role.

At this point I'm actually coming around to the idea of waiting until after the draft to see what WRs get cut, and if Cobb would want to come back on the vet minimum to be the old sage in the WR room. Probably wouldn't play much but just to help all these young players.
I think Cobb and Lewis are waiting for the Rodgers trade to happen before anything happens with them. Lewis wouldn't be a bad add also, especially if they draft a couple of TEs although I wonder if they think DeGuara can be the vet leader in that group.
With the turnover at some of the big offensive positions, there's definitely some value in having veteran leadership and keeping the locker room level.

[Fritz]

It would be kinda funny if the Packers ended up re-signing Cobb and Lewis, though I don't think they will.

[Joemailman]

It would be kinda funny if the Packers ended up re-signing Cobb and Lewis, though I don't think they will.

It wouldn't surprise me at all. It's practically a given the Packers will bring in a veteran WR and frankly, Cobb is as good as anyone that is left. And he knows the offense. Lewis is fits in as well in that the Packers will likely want to run the ball a lot to take pressure off Love. Probably nothing happens before the draft though.

[Fritz]

Or ten minutes after he finalizes the deal with the Jets, just to stick a knife into Rodgers just a little.

[Joemailman]

Or ten minutes after he finalizes the deal with the Jets, just to stick a knife into Rodgers just a little.

Well, I'm starting to wonder if the trade happens Thursday night/Friday morning between the 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft.

[Fritz]

Well, I'm starting to wonder if the trade happens Thursday night/Friday morning between the 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft.

That would be a distinct possibility, as it would allow both teams to re-shuffle their boards and make determinations about what they have available in that all-important second round. Imagine the stare-down that would go on, though, if one side balks? Wow. Fun.

[Joemailman]

That would be a distinct possibility, as it would allow both teams to re-shuffle their boards and make determinations about what they have available in that all-important second round. Imagine the stare-down that would go on, though, if one side balks? Wow. Fun.

The network coverage on draft night will be insane if it happens.

[run pMc]

I think it will happen before Round 1, most likely the day of, or the day before.
I think both teams will want the Rodgers situation settled before going into the draft so they can move forward with a plan, and GB wants to get draft capital THIS year for trading Rodgers.

One random thought was if they can't make a deal, NYJ packages their #13 pick and 2 R2 picks to move up and try to draft Levis, but that leaves them with Levis, Wilson and Boyle at QB. I don't think that's a good situation for Saleh and Douglas.
Also, Douglas has basically said Rodgers will be a Jet, so I think a deal will happen on the eve of the draft.

[Fritz]

I think it will happen before Round 1, most likely the day of, or the day before.
I think both teams will want the Rodgers situation settled before going into the draft so they can move forward with a plan, and GB wants to get draft capital THIS year for trading Rodgers.

One random thought was if they can't make a deal, NYJ packages their #13 pick and 2 R2 picks to move up and try to draft Levis, but that leaves them with Levis, Wilson and Boyle at QB. I don't think that's a good situation for Saleh and Douglas.
Also, Douglas has basically said Rodgers will be a Jet, so I think a deal will happen on the eve of the draft.

The plus side to waiting until the end of the first round is that the Packers would know what the board looked like - see if they have players slotted into that second tier, or if there are still a couple of what they think are first-tier players sitting out there. That would solidify the value - or lack thereof - of those Jets' second round picks. The down side of course is if there is a stare-down and nobody blinks, the second round ends and you've got nothing but your own pick there, so you are deferring compensation to the third round or to next year, or whenever. That's a little spooky. Unless you don't mind waiting for your compensation until the third round or next year.

Please, Packers, don't take any third round picks. You know you suck at the third round. If it gets to the third round, and no trade has been consummated, just go for an extra second next year.

[run pMc]

Gute has said the price goes up after the draft. It will get done before then. I think NYJ is fine giving them a R2 this year. Thanks to Rodgers saying he was 90% retiring, the NYJ are having heartburn about giving up future picks for a player who likely won't be playing anymore.

If the Jets can get a two year commitment from Rodgers -- more power to them if they can -- then this deal is already done. Rodgers is basically ghosts everyone in the offseason to get psychedelic colonics and healing crystals, he's too busy to commit to two years of football.
Given he gets another bonus in 2024 I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that he plays, but you never know.

I think GB gets a R2 this year plus future picks with a bunch of conditional mumbo jumbo to protect both teams. Gute does not want to give a pick back, and I don't blame him.

[Sparkey]

Gute has said the price goes up after the draft. It will get done before then. I think NYJ is fine giving them a R2 this year. Thanks to Rodgers saying he was 90% retiring, the NYJ are having heartburn about giving up future picks for a player who likely won't be playing anymore.

If the Jets can get a two year commitment from Rodgers -- more power to them if they can -- then this deal is already done. Rodgers is basically ghosts everyone in the offseason to get psychedelic colonics and healing crystals, he's too busy to commit to two years of football.
Given he gets another bonus in 2024 I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that he plays, but you never know.

I think GB gets a R2 this year plus future picks with a bunch of conditional mumbo jumbo to protect both teams. Gute does not want to give a pick back, and I don't blame him.

Instead of an escalating pick next year, just ask for both of their 2nds this year. A JET 1st next year means they played really well, maybe AFC Champion well. That means their 1st will be around high 28 or better.

[run pMc]

So- off season Banjo.

GB needs a backup QB, 3-4 players at WR/TE, plus answers to questions at starting safety (both spots?), edge rusher, and 2024 offensive tackle. Oh, they also probably need a kicker too.
Do they address what they can in the draft and just dangle in the wind on the rest? They don't have cap space to bring much FA talent in.

I don't think Crosby is back unless he still wants to play and he's willing to take a pay cut. He can retire as the all time scorer in Packers history.

[ThunderDan]

The plus side to waiting until the end of the first round is that the Packers would know what the board looked like - see if they have players slotted into that second tier, or if there are still a couple of what they think are first-tier players sitting out there. That would solidify the value - or lack thereof - of those Jets' second round picks. The down side of course is if there is a stare-down and nobody blinks, the second round ends and you've got nothing but your own pick there, so you are deferring compensation to the third round or to next year, or whenever. That's a little spooky. Unless you don't mind waiting for your compensation until the third round or next year.

Please, Packers, don't take any third round picks. You know you suck at the third round. If it gets to the third round, and no trade has been consummated, just go for an extra second next year.

You can breathe easy. The Jets don’t have a 3rd round pick to trade.

[RashanGary]

I think the trade will either happen when the Jets pick is up at 13 or on day 2 when the jets are up with the 42nd pick. I think they wanna see who’s there before they pull the trigger. If a guy they really want is there, they’ll sweeten the pot with next years picks. Otherwise they’ll either trade 13 or 42 or 42 and 43. Possibly with some conditionals going or coming back.