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What do you want FB to do with AROD in 2023---AND some thoughts
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Don't you think they already have a pretty good idea? I guess we're gonna find outOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostThey're not going to find out if Love is the guy long term if they keep bringing Rodgers back. The Packers have learned as much about Love as they're going to learn by watching him in practice. He needs to play some meaningful games for them to determine if he's the guy. I guess you want to keep bringing Rodgers back because you figure winning 10 games is better than 8. That doesn't do much for me.
IIRC TT extended Rodgers like 3 or 4 games into his tenure, so I think he had a very good idea from the jump he was gonna be the next guy. IIRC It was like 6 years, 66M or something. My how contracts have changed!
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His extension was following the 7th game of the 2008 season. He had just outplayed Peyton Manning as the Packers beat the Colts 34-14. I guess they figured that was good enough.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostDon't you think they already have a pretty good idea? I guess we're gonna find out
IIRC TT extended Rodgers like 3 or 4 games into his tenure, so I think he had a very good idea from the jump he was gonna be the next guy. IIRC It was like 6 years, 66M or something. My how contracts have changed!I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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This analysis makes it sound like the packers butt-fucked themselves pretty badly:
NFL offseason predictions, from Aaron Rodgers to Derek Carr
I don't know how much of this is hindsight. Many people thought the Packers has a Superbowl ready team going into this past season.
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Well, if you are able to butt-fuck yourself, then clearly you have hindsight.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostThis analysis makes it sound like the packers butt-fucked themselves pretty badly:
NFL offseason predictions, from Aaron Rodgers to Derek Carr
I don't know how much of this is hindsight. Many people thought the Packers has a Superbowl ready team going into this past season."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Super Bowl be damned. Playoffs be damned. What counts is having the thrill of victory 13, 14, or 15 times in the regular season with the agony of defeat only low single digits. I'm fairly sure Rodgers will give the Packers that for a few more years anyway - with current leadership and personnel. And with a little bit of luck, those hung up on the Super Bowl will get that too.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostISN"T THE REAL QUESTION THE FOLLOWING ?
IF we bring AROD back, under the current leadership and personnell, will GB win a Super Bowl ?
To me, that question answers whether you bring AROD back, doesn't it ?
Few things in sports are more STUPID than tearing down to rebuild. This is pretty much a separate thing than the Rodgers thing, but thankfully, the Packers (and other Wisconsin sports teams) have never been that damn STUPID. Hopefully they won't start now.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Does that mean you can bet against it with 4:1 odds? I'll absolutely tak that bet.Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View PostDraftkings now has an implied probability of 81.8% of AR ending up with the Raiders.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/...ts-not-packersWhat could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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The whole "The Raiders are going to trade Darren Waller for Rodgers and a first" is a dumb narrative. No they're not. Packers are gonna rebuild and want picks, Raiders are going towards win now mode and want weapons. Thus, they would trade picks only. Imagine the kick in the pants for Rod when the Packers draft an OT and a WR in R1 this year, LOL.
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I agree they won't want to trade for Waller, but not because they see themselves as in a rebuilding mode. They are over the cap and won't want to trade for an injury prone guy who has a big base salary. The way to get out from under the salary cap is through the draft, not trading for high-salaried guys.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostThe whole "The Raiders are going to trade Darren Waller for Rodgers and a first" is a dumb narrative. No they're not. Packers are gonna rebuild and want picks, Raiders are going towards win now mode and want weapons. Thus, they would trade picks only. Imagine the kick in the pants for Rod when the Packers draft an OT and a WR in R1 this year, LOL.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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It's not that odd really. 4 nights of darkness is certainly different, but lots of people go on retreats by themselves in search of guidance, spiritual or otherwise.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Those traditions transcend cultural boundaries and are as old as human culture.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIt's not that odd really. 4 nights of darkness is certainly different, but lots of people go on retreats by themselves in search of guidance, spiritual or otherwise.
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I think it was Andy Herman saying something like a swap of 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, and Elijah Moore and Denzel Mims for Rodgers and Savage to the NYJ.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI agree they won't want to trade for Waller, but not because they see themselves as in a rebuilding mode. They are over the cap and won't want to trade for an injury prone guy who has a big base salary. The way to get out from under the salary cap is through the draft, not trading for high-salaried guys.
I could see a mix of players and picks, or picks that are conditional on how Rodgers performs as well as how many seasons. Few teams will be desperate enough to want to pay a QB $60M for one season, especially if it's mediocre. Any players that would come back would have to be on cheap contracts, i.e., rookie contracts for players who aren't good fits for current team's scheme or who just want out.
i could also see them move Bakh for a conditional pick based on # of games played, etc., if they chose to move on or if he requested a trade with Rodgers. As it is, you save $6M by trading/cutting him but for a quality LT I think that's not good enough. Next offseason the cap savings is higher I think, he's probably done here by then.
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